Using Thin Clients with PeopleSoft? 27
lsmft2001 asks: "We're busy implementing a big ERP project with PeopleSoft. We currently run a mixture of Windows 95, 98 and 2000. These machines run most of the time, but all too often they fail for various reasons. Our IT department spends too much time fixing these machines, basically patching them enough so staff can get back to work. It's frustrating for them and for the users.
PeopleSoft only requires a browser to run. Has anyone implemented PeopleSoft without Windows machines? What I would really like to see is some kind of plug and play solution. If a PC fails, the maintenance folks replace the whole machine or the hard drive and everyone is back to work. I would like to see this solution for the 'power users' as well, where they could log on to any machine and have all their files and applications available to them. Everything here runs Novell Netware.
Has anyone implemented PeopleSoft with minimal client software? Could it be done with Novell and SuSe?"
details? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:details? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:details? (Score:2)
It's interesting to me that 50MB is considered "damn small" or miniscule [icewalkers.com]. It must have been about six years ago that a friend of mine put together a Linux "distro" which included a few network analysis tools, all on one bootable 1.44MB floppy. I feel old :)
We use Peoplesoft at my Work.... (Score:5, Informative)
As an alternate solution, I'd recommend Norton Ghost. Keep a backup of a "good" image for each PC model in the office. When a client fails, simply refresh the image (takes like 20 minutes). It's not especially elegant, but it gets the job done.
Re:We use Peoplesoft at my Work.... (Score:4, Informative)
Having seen how well it scales I have to say I'm a true believer.
Well (Score:2, Informative)
Crossover office can run IE. Never tried it but nomachines.com sounds like a citrix like platform.
If you are not IE specific then I'm not sure why the question is here.
VMware (Score:2)
Re:VMware (Score:2)
www.deepfreezeusa.com
PeopleSoft supports most current clients (Score:5, Informative)
As server platform PeopleSoft supports Windows, Linux, AIX, HP-UX, Thru64, Solaris, etc.
Supported Databases are Oracle, Sybase, DB2, MS-SQL.
So there is no need at all to use Microsoft Software with PeopleSoft. Neither on the server nor on the client.
Cut your losses (Score:2, Informative)
It would be a more efficient use of resources to urge support for standard data formats rather than specifying specific client software. However, if they did that , then it would be obvious whether or not PeopleSoft works.
If all you need is a browser, why not PXE it? (Score:2, Interesting)
Quick question: What is PeopleSoft? (Score:2)
So, what is it again?
Snide remarks about marketing speak a
Re:Quick question: What is PeopleSoft? (Score:2)
MetaFrame XP, or maybe Terminal Services (Score:2)
Of course, that's assuming there is a client port for either of those for your OS. It would make it so you could reinstall/replace the client machine, and not have to install/configure Peoplesoft.
Back, somewhat, to the subject at hand... (Score:1)
You mentioned "replace the whole machine with hard drive..." how about one step simpler... LTSP (ltsp.org).
No hard drive. No CD Rom. No Floppy. No Sound. (you can if you like, but we're talking simple.).
You just have one server or maybe one server and one or two application servers (LTSP, X, Peoplesoft).
I've set this up for several schools and it works great. Also at a few businesses for OpenOffice and Evolution. If a m
The PS system (Score:2)
Re:Sun (Score:2)
Re:Sun (Score:1)
"Circle of Power" be damned...
Go Ultra Thin (Score:5, Interesting)
If the issue you're trying to solve is desktop maintenance, then I strongly suggest going to an Ultra Thin Client like the Sun Ray architecture.
I have installed Sun Ray networks at universities, and they absolutely love them. Yes, I work with Suns as a profession, so if you feel you must, take this with a grain of salt. Then again, I'm very much pro-Linux and would love to see an LTSP installation as well, that doesn't reduce the maintenance as much as the Sun Rays will.
If you aren't familiar with them, think of a telephone... if it breaks, you unplug it and put a new one in place and as soon as you plug it in, it's working. Same thing. No hard drive. No fans. No noise at all. Nothing mechanical to break, nothing to fix.
They are effectively a remote display (+kb+mouse) to the Solaris system running the Sun Ray Server software... so everyone shares the same (remote) box. Suns are designed to be much more efficient in multitasking "server" environments than the typical PC, so you can run quite a lot of Sun Rays off one server without anyone noticing a degredation in performance.
Browser choices include Netscape, Mozilla, Firefox, and I'm sure others.
Desktops include CDE and GNOME (recommended) and soon, JDS (Java Desktop Environment = slicked up GNOME).
Another plus is "hot desking".
Say you get a page and have to run to the other end of the building, but you're in the middle of something, or remotely logged into the server you need to work on with tasks running you don't want to stop, etc. You either disconnect the display with a simple command or button push, or if you're using the available smartcards, you yank your card out and run. You get to the other end of the building or server room (whatever), you plug in your smartcard (if you're using it) or you just log in, and the display you had at the former location is now in front of you still running and active. I've done exactly this on many occasions, having something running on a console of a box, with the serial console controled via minicom in an xterm... but I needed to be in the server room to do something then get back to the console again. You get the idea.
Ports on the incredibly simple devices include: VGA (DB15); 4 USB (for keyboard, mouse, etc.); ethernet; power; audio out (in case the internal speaker isn't loud enough for ya); audio in, and video in.
Yes, you read that right, it has composite video (and audio) in, so you can do video-conferencing using these Ultra Thin Clients.
I'm leaving a lot out... these things are much nicer and more versatile than I'm describing.
I seriously think Sun should market these things more, everyone who I've demoed them for has loved 'em.
Anyways, just to prove I'm not just trying to sell new Sun hardware (I'm not a sales-droid, I'm a tech), check out the used ones on ebay. I'm running some Sun Rays at home on an old Ultra 10... got the former for $30/each and the latter for around $125.
Re:Go Ultra Thin (Score:2)
--paulj
Re:Go Ultra Thin (Score:2)
I wasn't there, but I heard that at the last LinuxWorld conference in NY, Sun announced the next version WILL run on Linux! (I can't wait!)
Re:Go Ultra Thin (Score:2)
lsmft2001 didn't designate which product line-- (Score:1)
Check the MTRs for the thin clients:
1. Browsers other than Netscape and IE aren't supported. Mozilla support is in the works. However, a tweak to linuxhansl's post--it isn't all platforms--only on the client machines are browsers supported. That's what's impo
Your first mistake was PeopleSoft. (Score:2)
Toptier (Score:1)