


Soundproofing a Cubicle? 108
Anon! A Mouse Cowered! asks: "I work in a 10 x 10 ft. cubicle that's about as low-end as it can be (my back wall is made of my filing cabinets). I have a cheap set of speakers on my desktop for internet radio, but if I play anything other than light jazz or classical at anything above a squeak, it's annoying to my coworkers. Are there any other Dilberts (or Wallys, even), who can offer ideas on making a workspace more livable so that I can enjoy my Primus albums at an audible volume while working?"
Headphones (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Headphones (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Headphones (Score:5, Insightful)
add a sensitive microphone to the mix and you'll be able to hear other people as well..
Re:Headphones (Score:2, Informative)
One thing I tried, and which had moderate success, was to build a little optically-controlled attenuator to put inline with the headphones. Basically two transistors and two phototransistors arranged so that when a phototransi
Re:Headphones (Score:2)
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Re:Headphones (Score:1)
Though if you aren't trying to go deaf, maybe they aren't too terrible?
Re:Headphones (Score:2)
Do you want to have any hearing left in three years?
I'll second that question! (Score:1)
If I set a normal listening level and place them on my thigh in a moderately quiet office environment (a very large room with a couple computers and other gizmos humming), I can't tell whether or not they're turned on.
Sure, open air headphones could be a problem if you're in a recording studio, or *possibly* sitting dire
We should all discourage Primus listening (Score:2)
This might be tough if your company doesn't have IM or you need to use the phone though.
Otherwise, I got to agree with your co-workers. People with music in the office drive me nuts. The current offender in my area whose tastes alternate between old-school gangster rap and country. Needsless to say, its rather annoying.
Re:We should all discourage Primus listening (Score:3, Interesting)
Or for a more geeky solution: hook up a mic and enable it as an input source. That way anything the mic picks up will be mixed in with the music. Adjust the volumes to suit and you're good to go.
=Smidge=
Re:We should all discourage Primus listening (Score:3, Informative)
I've been using AKG Acoustics K-240 Monitor [akg.com] for many years - superb sound quality, durable, comfortable.
There's also K-240 Studio and K-240 DF, but I haven't had a chance to try those out.
Re:We should all discourage Primus listening (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:We should all discourage Primus listening (Score:1)
Hmmmmm (Score:1, Redundant)
Earplugs (Score:5, Funny)
Alternative headphone use (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Alternative headphone use (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Alternative headphone use (Score:1)
Sounds like you're not looking for headphones. Sounds like you're looking for earplugs.
Re:Alternative headphone use (Score:2)
The headphones work as intended, not as the misguided advice-giver thinks they do.
Re:Alternative headphone use (Score:1, Troll)
I would suggest that YOU are lucky it wasn't an SAT question. You need to re-read what you said and note how anybody would believe you made a type-o. Either you dropped the wrong word ('they' for 'he') or you confused the antecedent. The subject of your prior sentence was NOT your neighbors, but the headphones. As it was in each prior sentence to be exact. The use of a pronoun ('he' in your case) was inappropriate to denote your neighbors. The correct use of
Re:Alternative headphone use (Score:2)
Re:Alternative headphone use (Score:2)
It's not about context. It's about grammatical form and your snide remarks regarding confusion you yourself caused.
It is bad grammatical form to use a pronoun without a clear antecedent. The closest thing to an antecedent you had was in reference to the 'headphones'. It would be quite easy to assume your error was one of saying "he" instead of "they" or "it" rather than a more uncommon grammatical error.
Normally I would ignore this, but your
Re:Alternative headphone use (Score:1)
Wireless headphones. (Score:2)
Re:Wireless headphones. (Score:1)
Quality Headphones. (Score:4, Informative)
Earbuds are nice and cheap, but they block out too much sound. You need to ensure that the headphones are really comfortable and have a nice long cord, though, since you'll probably want to move around your desk a bit and be wearing them for hours on end. Also, if you are running the sound out of your desktop or notebook and it's kinda crappy (bad S/N ratio, interferance, etc) look into a Griffin Technologies iMic [griffintechnology.com]. As they are just a standard USB audio device, they work without drivers on Macs or PCs and sound excellent.
I personally find it extremely rude when coworkers insist on playing music out loud (headphones solve this) or having conference calls on speakerphone (that's what headsets are for). Hopefully if more people start using a more personal listening device, the workplace will be calmer for everyone.
Re:Quality Headphones. (Score:4, Informative)
If you want comfortable, you can't go wrong with Sony MDR-F1 [sony.com]. Sure, some open headphones sound better [goodcans.com] but MDR-F1 is probably the most comfortable pair of cans available anywhere. Forget Sennheiser's if you wear glasses. Be warned though, that MDF-F1's are a quite demanding headphones - for the best quality you'll need a separate headphones amplifier, though one can get acceptable sound quality even from the sound card plug. The drive units are 50 mm diameter which is probably more than your average office desktop speakers have...
Re:Quality Headphones. (Score:3, Informative)
I probably would have gone with another brand, but I found these on clearance (for some reason) for something like $32. Extra dirt cheap for *great* headphones.
I'd love a pair like those Sony's, though. Match them with a nice tube amp... Mmm...
Re:Quality Headphones. (Score:2)
Why soundproof a 10'x10' area when you only need to soundproof the 1' cube around your head?
headphones are not an option? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:headphones are not an option? (Score:2)
Re:headphones are not an option? (Score:2)
Re:headphones are not an option? (Score:2)
The straw that broke the camel's back... (Score:4, Insightful)
Who the heck is publishing these stupid submissions?
Out of 25 'Ask Slashdot' posts there are maybe 1 or 2 that are worthy of being published.
I mean come on! Sound proofing a Cubicle so someone can listen to Primus? Try head phones! Try working instead of listening to music at work. Try an iPod. Try tailoring your listening to something in the least common denominator of the general public. Primus is not easy listening material!
Headphones are the cheapest solution next to inventing a 'Cone of Silence' or trying some form of noise cancelation (180 deg out of phase amplifier).
Heck, keep playing Primus in your cubicle! Crank it up! Get fired so someone with a clue can take your job!
Re:The straw that broke the camel's back... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:The straw that broke the camel's back... (Score:1, Funny)
maybe there should be moderation of stories (Score:2)
Here's some the choice:
1 Did you try google?
2 Uninformative
3 Interesting
4 Blame Microsoft
5 Blame SCO
Its Cliff. (Score:2)
Oh, and most times that someone complains about it, they are modded down to -1 Redundant.. I mean, wtf. Someone needs to fix this.
-molo
Cochlear implants! (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Cochlear implants! (Score:1)
The deaf are the testers (Score:2)
Re:Cochlear implants! (Score:2)
Even better, he could hack one of these [augustachronicle.com] to listen to his tunes and get his sugar-fix at the same time. :-)
For those wanting a less invasive solution... (Score:1)
get these closed-back studio headphones - AKG 271 (Score:1, Redundant)
Here are some for sale [samedaymusic.com]
Loomis
Re:get these closed-back studio headphones - AKG 2 (Score:2)
Now, for home....
Ceiling Hanging Heavy Canvas (Score:2)
Otherwise- headphones is what EVERYBODY in my office uses. It's almost a requirement for working here it seems; it's rare to see somebody working without headphones. If you need to wear a telephone headset as well, well, why not just go the McGyver route- duct tape headphones to your headset?
Re:Ceiling Hanging Heavy Canvas (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Ceiling Hanging Heavy Canvas (Score:2)
Planning on putting a roof up? (Score:2)
The Answer... (Score:3, Informative)
Get a good set and you'll be amazed by the sound and your neighbors will be happy.
I recommend a high-end Sennheiser model, like the Sennheiser HD-580 [headphone.com]
After using them for a while, you won't go back to "computer speakers"
Re:The Answer... (Score:2)
Re:The Answer... (Score:2)
Re:The Answer... (Score:1)
Re:The Answer... (Score:1)
Seriously here (Score:2)
Water = quiet (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Water = quiet (Score:2, Insightful)
i LOVE that this was moderated "Informative". thats even funnier than the original post!
Use your brain... (Score:4, Insightful)
milton quote! (Score:4, Funny)
Re: (Score:3, Funny)
What good (Score:1)
I'm sure more than just I emailed "OMG!!!! HEADPHONES!!!!"....
Ask Slashmoron.
An option besides headphones.... (Score:1, Insightful)
This won't let you turn your music up much louder, but trust me, it will help. Try also playing some white noise, or apply a low pass filter to the white noise at around 1000-1500Hz, and aiming that sound outward at your fellow employees. This sounds like an air conditioner, and therefore your co-workers will hear less of your music, and you can turn it up louder.
Why Headphones Suck (Score:3, Insightful)
Headphones, at least for me, cause discomfort and pain after 45 minutes or so with music at a reasonable volume. (Reasonable volume being where I can still hear a coworker's typing.)
Noise-cancelling headphones are even worse. I've never found a pair that I could stand having on more than five minutes. I'd imagine I'm not the only one.
Now gimme that damn red stapler back.
Re:Why Headphones Suck (Score:2)
Understand that some people cannot stand any level of music even if you are able to deaden the sound. It is not because they hate you or your music. It is because they find music of any kind very distracting.
Re:Why Headphones Suck (Score:2)
If the band irritates you and you can get by without hearing too much of your coworkers (phone flashes, there's a door, etc), good earbuds are a solution. Not the little foam things that come with every portable music device, but some in-ear-canal ones. Nice ones will have plugs made out of the same foam that earplugs are m
Clip your toenails... (Score:4, Insightful)
...as loudly as possibly. Every day. For several months.
It's what Wally would do.
After that, people will be relieved when you stop to listen to your music.
Re: (Score:2, Funny)
Some real solutions... (Score:5, Informative)
Your cubicle is a big speaker cabinet that's pointed at the ceiling. Anyone within a few cubicles will get the reflections from the ceiling.
* Place sound deadening ceiling tiles above your cubicle (and out 8-10 feet). Cover them with loosely attached cloth (so it drapes several inches below ceiling height). This will reduce the largest portion of sound reflection.
Cubicle surfaces are attached to neighbor cubicles. Sounds from within the cubicle can be transmitted directly to the cubicle and reproduced at other points as the sound travels through the system.
* Place the speakers on sound deadening material and then on top of a rubber pad. Surface your entire cubicle with sound deadening material. Place loosely attached cloth around the cubicle (the heavier weight the cloth, the better)
Sound, by its very nature, travels through the air very well. All the previous measures only prevent reflections and transmissions through and from solid surfaces. Now you need to prevent the sound from traveling through the air to your neighbors.
* Extend your cubicle walls to the ceiling, or at least place several layers of cloth, preferebaly with sound deadening materil inbetween, from the top of your cubicle to the ceiling. Install a door of some kind. Put cones around your speakers to direct the sound energy towards you - you shouldn't be sending sound pollution to places you aren't at, so place the cones to prevent the sound from going all over the cubicle.
Of course, some sound is still getting through, and, let's face it, Primus isn't intended to be played at low volumes. I recommend installing a concrete block on top of a rubber pad/shock system inside your cubicle. On top of that pad you'll need double walls with sound insulation between them, and, of course, a similar door and ceiling.
But you'll probably have a better time (easier, cheaper, faster) buying wireless headphones or convincing your employer to allow you to telecommute.
For my part, I just find this hilarious when the worst part of your job is you can't listen to Primus at your preferred volume.
You must really be suffering, but remember that you need to choose your battles wisely. You may win this one, but the next one might be more important, and you might not have any more room to move.
-Adam
Re:Some real solutions... (Score:1)
>> Sound, by its very nature, travels through the air very well
Sollution to all your noise-pollution-problems in one word: work in vacuum.
Are you sure it is the music? (Score:2)
Maybe you should draw those Les Nessman (WKRP in Cincinnati) [tvtome.com] lines around your cube and tell your coworkers not to hear anything outside the lines.
Soundproofing (Score:1)
You say your work space is 10' x 10'
Start with a wooden frame 2"X6" and 10' square. Cover one side in 10 guage steel plate, sandwich sound proof insulation into it and lay on a layer of lead sheet. Over the lead sheet place 5/8" drywall and seal the units final side with 10 guage steel plate. Repete 4 more times, 5 if you want a floor. Make sure you put a door into one of the walls. Assemble the units into
Phone headsets (Score:2)
by Plantronics can easily be 'hacked' into to feed another sound source.
I used to work at a place and dealt with the same thing, headphones sucked when you needed to answer the phone or when someone talked to you.
So I took the plantronics headset and base for my phone home with me (prepare to buy a new one if you screw it up) and drilled out a hole big enough for a standard stereo minijack and soldered it inline with the mono headphone output on the phone headset.
Then I got a standard male to male stere
Koss Porta Pros (Score:1)
They rock.
Pretty much everyone here has em -- and loves em. Went through a big peer pressure "try them, you'll love them" about a year ago -- now we look like the control room at NASA.
Oh, and gotta love the $6 shipping+handling to make good on the lifetime warranty - you'll be thankful of that after a mis-timed chair roll.
It's not as simple as everyone thinks. Maybe. (Score:1)
-nice headphones, so they're comfortable -get 'em with a boom mic so you can talk on the phone with 'em -get a two-way splitter so you can quickly switch between multiple inputs -if your phone doesn't have a 1/8" input, you can get a converter that goes from 1/8" to telephone cord (RJ-whatever) -have a monkey mirror (from Thinkgeek) on your monitor, so you can see when folks are behind you
This'll also make you more productive, as "idiot questions" and "gossip" will go
Re:It's not as simple as everyone thinks. Maybe. (Score:1)
I noticed you complained that they're uncomfortable. Be prepared to spend some money ($150 at most) on some really nice ones (maybe try 'em at the Bose store first?) or use earbuds, which are really comfortable. Earbuds also come out quick, too - just yank the cords where they come together, no need to do 'em one at a time.
Turn down the volume! (Score:2)
Real music sounds great at low volumes. Bach for instance. Or real jazz. (though the soft jazz some radio stations play doesn't sound good at any level) If you are listening to the music, you are cheating on your company. If it is noise you don't need much anyway.
Headphones (Score:1)
Two words. (Score:2)
Re:Two words. (Score:2)
Give up.
Re:Two words. (Score:2)
Re:Two words. (Score:2)
I don't know if you were kidding or not, but this actually happened to me.
I work in an area that has movable desks instead of cubes. Desks are setup in pod form, with no walls between pods.
One day the pod behind me decided to have a six person meeting about 5 feet from my desk. I kept turning up my headphones until
Re:Two words. (Score:2)
Then there was the loud person who decided he had to use his speakerphone even though he was in a cubicle.
There is another possibility other than headphones (Score:2)
A phased array radar can steer a beam across the sky without moving any mechanical parts by altering the phase of the signals sent out from the little emitters it is made up of. If the emitters are all in synch then they reinforce one another and emit a strong beam norma
everyones nuts (Score:1)
Blackadder II comes to mind (Score:2)
1. Kill your coworkers for being annoyed with your taste in music.
2. Kill yourself for working in a cubicle.
3. Give up, get headphones and live out your meaningless existence in the cubicle.
Hope this helps,
Paul.
Hardwall office simulation (Score:2)
Since headphones are not an option (Score:1)
Directed sound (Score:1)
Re:Thanks (Score:2)