Preventing/Resolving Interoffice Conflict? 93
An anonymous reader asks: "I have an extremely unpleasant person to whom I directly report. I have no desire to leave my company until I've accomplished certain personal (read: financial) goals, but that will probably be, at the least, 12-30 months. In the meantime, I'd like to start resolving the personality clashes that me and this individual seem to constantly find ourselves in, with the hopes of perhaps extending my stay. Unfortunately, it's beyond my current mediating skills. Have you found any particular books, articles, texts, outlooks, or strategies which they have found valuable with respect to resolving personality conflicts in the workplace, or in a larger sense, mediating, arbitrating, or resolving disagreements?"
You know BOFH? (Score:5, Funny)
BOFH - the original [leo.org] More BOFH [theregister.co.uk]
Re:You know BOFH? (Score:3, Informative)
Umm, I think you mean bofh.ntk.net (Score:2)
It's got a lot of other writings by Simon Travaglia as well.
Clicky-clicky. [ntk.net]
OP: Couple of points. (Score:2)
Second - unless you were in a peachy arrangement with the company and they assigned the new boss to run your group
Is it? (Score:2, Funny)
Nonviolent Communication (Score:2, Informative)
Terry Tate Office Linebacker (Score:5, Funny)
This one is the best I have ever read (Score:4, Interesting)
The Rules of Work [amazon.com]
I have read it three times and have found it invaluable in more than just work.
Re:This one is the best I have ever read (Score:2)
Daniel
When you do..... (Score:1)
Dear mister President, (Score:1)
Keep it personal (Score:4, Interesting)
Beer breaks down barriers. Buying beers for others breaks down even more.
Having a beer bought for you is cool - especialy so if the beer is too.
This is not good... (Score:5, Insightful)
It's bad enough when you have to work in the same department with someone like this, but to report directly to them?
I worked for a huge corporation for 8 years, and when one person was hired and decided I was a threat to his position and proceeded to repeatedly sabotage my work and reputation... it got ugly.
This person buddied up to management (literally, taking them golfing and out on his boat, etc.) and with little nagging here and there, eventually convinced them that I was the problem, not him.
I got out in time... I left that company and got a ~50% raise in the process.
Upon submitting my 2 week notice, I posted this [despair.com] outside my cubicle... no-one took it down.
Almost immediately after I left, I ended up hearing that he targetted another in the group (since I was no longer there to be the scapegoat for his mistakes). Unfortunately for him, this guy had a phenomenal reputation in the company that spanned many levels (so it finally backfired).
The "moral of the story" is basically... you're in a "no-win situation". This person is not only going to have a negative effect on your psyche over that period of time, but he's going to have a negative effect on your reputation, making it more difficult to get another job anyways.
This is, of course, if he doesn't fire you first... which will make it even more difficult to find another job.
My recommendation is to polish your resume and post it immediately... it only gets worse.
Re:This is not good... (Score:2)
When companies get that big, managers are often hired soley on their management experience and not on anything else. If you have a manager who doesn't understand the finer points of what you do, I think you have a company with too much fat.
People need to be trusted enough to do a good job on their own without being micromanaged. And if they
Small Businesses (Score:2)
This sort of thing is a common problem in small businesses.
Something to try (Score:1)
Re:Something to try (Score:3, Informative)
I completely disagree. I truly despise the dishonest people that "resolve" any conflict in that manner.
(No offense to you intended; you are on my friends list after all. I just feel very strongly about dishonest tactics. And that technique will simply gain you a reputation as a liar.)
Re:Something to try (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Something to try (Score:2, Interesting)
He micromanaged and I found out very quickly it was a no-win. He wanted to tell me what button to push, even if I disagreed, and then blame me when it didn't work.
Quickly I decided to make my own mistakes. Hell, if I was going to get the blame It might as well be for something I did
Re:Something to try (Score:2)
Conflict management (Score:4, Informative)
Basicly the things I remembered from them
1 Don't make the problem personal. Don't say you're an asshole, but something like "that can be done better".
If the problem is personal, be direct about it.
2 There are 5 ways to go about a conflict
a) Fight: beware don't fight with someone stronger then you and think of the aftermath
b) Run: beware that you don't become a pushover, but for some occasions it's good not to escalate and come back later
c) Compromise: good for the moment but you both loose
d) Win-win: this is the one you normally should go for
e) Both loose: don't go for this one
For example see http://ianrpubs.unl.edu/family/heg181.htm
Could you be a little more vague? (Score:4, Insightful)
But on a more constructive note, I've been there myself, more than once. So you've asked a vague question and you'll get a vague answer: in my case, back in the old days, in retrospect, most of the time, frankly it was my fault. Then I got a bit older and a bit wiser, and now I find myself flexible enough to deal with or avoid almost any unpleasant situation. So try waiting a few years until one or both of you grows up a bit. (Note that in most cases, time alone doesn't help people, so this probably won't work - but neither will the books and classes recommended to you by others)
Assertiveness (Score:2, Insightful)
More details? (Score:2)
Except that he's an "unpleasant person", you give no examples, no further information that could tell us what the problem is like.
So I can only give the default answer, which is to behave like a grown up, tell him that you have these problems, and that you want to talk them out because work is affected. That's usually the only way to actually have a chance at solving them anyway, I believe.
Or perhaps you already tried that, or you know he actively wants these problems, or there's some other reason why tha
Admit you're wrong about something (Score:5, Interesting)
I'll share an example with you: I got into it with my former boss once. (Note: Former long after this incident, so spare me the obvious Trump line.
Here's the thing, though. We were(are) good friends. We never had a problem like this before. So when we sat face to face eyes ablaze with anger ready to have a dueling of words, I realized this was not a situation we should ever be in. I mean, she is one of the most rational people I have ever met, and to wind her up like that... well there had to be something more to it. Then it dawned on me. I paused the
When I pointed out my contribution to the problem, it immediately defused the situation. Suddenly we were our old selves again and we both figured out what it'd take to prevent that type of thing from happening again. I'm happy to say that by the time our chat was over, there was no discomfort at the office. There was no "ugh that was an ugly moment." It was settled, we were both cool.
If I had been more of an asshole, I could have pursued it. I could have attempted to drill her into the ground. (Although I will say that she's far brighter than I am, I could have easily gone down in flames. hehe.) Instead, quite by accident, I discovered how to get us back onto a pleasant discussion level. Kind of embarrasing on my part, though. heh.
I don't know if this helps you at all. But it might be worth trying. Admit (or claim) a problem was your fault. Maybe you won't seem so threatening to him when he realizes you're not Mr. Perfect.
So was IBM at fault? (Score:2)
So was IBM at fault?
Or were you wrong to blame them in the first place?
Re:So was IBM at fault? (Score:2)
Or were you wrong to blame them in the first place?"
I'd say IBM was half at fault, but I had no fault to call mine. I had never touched that machine before, all I did was resolve the issue. I say 'half-fault' because it's possible my coworker might have contributed to it. Having never seen the machine before, I could not determine that.
My memory is fuzzy on what happened with it. I think what happened was he killed XP on it, installed Linux, installed VMWare, and then installed
Could tell by reading your post (Score:5, Insightful)
"...Unfortunately, it's beyond my current mediating skills. Have you found any particular books, articles, texts, outlooks, or strategies..."
If you're going this far, it's not going to work. You're the type of person that feels they've got to be friends with everyone and when you don't get along you have to do something to "fix" it. Anything you try from a book or strategy guide is just going to come across as forced and false and will probably piss off the other person even more.
Best advice: You're in a crappy working situation. If you're planning on making a career out of this job, try and get transferred to another department/building where there's a different manager. If that's not possible, you need to figure out how your boss's boss responds to complaints. If the boss's boss won't listen, or there's nobody that's higher up, find another job or just deal with it until you can leave.
Re:Could tell by reading your post (Score:2)
You have to admit - you save someone from being gunned down by a raving lunatic and you can pretty much write your own ticket after that...
Make him explode! (Score:2)
How To Win Friends And Influence People (Score:2, Informative)
It's only 7.99 and will probably solve many more problems than just the one you have with your boss
Here's the links (Score:1)
How to Win Friends and Influence People [amazon.com]
book recommendation (Score:3, Informative)
I found the book: Coping with Difficult People [powells.com] by Robert M. Bramson very helpful in dealing with (as you say) an ''extremely unpleasant person''.
political advice (Score:1)
1. Patience, don't speak until they finish speaking to you.
2. Politeness, yes sir, no sir, i'm not sure, sir.
3. Directness, once they have their say, politely offer your own opinion, then HANDS OFF, let them decide.
Remember, its not your job to add to the company value, its YOUR job to do what they say.
Re:political advice (Score:2)
That's ridiculous. It's every person's job to add to the company value. If you don't feel you are contributing, you need to make it known. If what you think you should be doing is different than what your superiors think you should be doing, you have to communicate those differences--once they understand your reasoning, they're likely to agree. Sometimes this takes a while. But there may be a point where a profound phi
MOD THIS UP INSIGHTFUL!!!! (Score:2)
MOD THIS UP INSIGHTFUL!!!!
Seriously, though: The only reason any job exists is to maximize shareholder value.
If the business structure is other than "C-Corporation" or "S-Corporation," then you can make a suitable substitution for the word "shareholder," but it's the same idea.
PS [for the grandparent] - You said: [I]t's YOUR job to do what they say.
I say: What are you, somebody's slave? If Massuh says "Jump," do you say "How high?"
Re:political advice (Score:2)
Bloody hell! are you talking about a company or the military?
If your _immediate_ superior demands that sort of subservience then I think it's time to get another job.
You can be polite without being subservient - I wouldn't even talk like that to the Managing Directory of the company I work for - or the chairman of the board for that matter. But that doesn't mean I'd be impolite or overly familiar either...
you're pretty much right with 1 and 3 though...
Change jobs. (Score:2)
When all is said and done... (Score:1)
Conventional and unconventional approaches (Score:5, Interesting)
1) Separating the people from the problem
2) Focusing on the interests, not positions
3) Inventing options for mutual gain
4) Insisting on using objective criteria
This can get you so far but the results can still be frustrating...so I'd keep in mind that as long as you see yourself with a future at this company, you're better off thinking that:
1) Anger, frustration do nothing to you except for make you feel crappy. Accept that he's a prick and move on.
2) Your manager is a great teacher of patience and tolerance. Once you can put up with him, you can conquer anything!
3) When he's being a jerk, just smile or be nice back to him. He's probably using his asshole-ness as a power play and he'll be confused as hell when you don't play his game. Hopefully others in the company will pick up on your competence+ability to deal with people and want you on their team.
Re:Conventional and unconventional approaches (Score:1)
I second this recommendation. Another excellent (and cheap!) resource is Difficult Conversations [amazon.com], from the same group at Harvard and co-written by one of the same authors.
I had the good fortune of sitting in a class with two of the authors of this book while we threw some real-life examples at them, which they then played out -- both the "wrong" way and the "right" way. The "right" way still doesn't guarantee ease or success, even for them.
It was extremely entertaining watching Sheila Heen trying to c
Confused Confrontation (Score:3, Informative)
When that happens, listen. Keep listening. Seek to understand his/her position. Stephen Covey calls it "First Seek to Understand, then be understood".
Of course if after several sessions it appears your boss is just f*cking with you, it's time to CYA on every assignment, document the seemingly bad behavior, and update that resume. Spend the energy worrying about your job trying to find a new job.
It happened to me once and I got a better job, a new career path, and guess what?, my bad boss got fired, so I felt kinda vindicated.
If you can't win his personality, destroy it! (Score:1)
"Schopenhauer, Die Kunst Recht zu behalten" which translates to "Schopenhauer, the art of winning any argument" or "the art of being right"...
If you can't manage to be with said person, at least win every argument!
Seven Habits (Score:2)
Either way, they will no longer rule your existance, because their behavior will not dictate your response - your own values will.
The way you phrased the problem indicates you're already on the right track. Good luck.
Re:"Sun Tzu" "The art of war" F/T (Score:2)
A book I found helpful . . . (Score:2)
Turn into human beings (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm sitting in her cubicle as she rants about my department again and I notice she has some pictures of her dogs hanging on the walls. In a lull in the raving, I asked about the dogs and--like flipping a switch--she suddenly softened and then went on and on about them. It was the most boring conversation in the world, but afterwards, she cooperated with me much more and even praised my work after the project.
It's easy to get tangled in roles and forget people are human beings--however annoying ones sometimes. That one moment of talking about something she really cared about was just enough to make her realize we weren't gang members but human beings.
As weird as it sounds, try some diplomacy: learn about the person, ask some questions, feign (or, better yet, actually cultivate) interest...you'd be surprised how people suddenly turn around when their passions are revealed.
Re:Turn into human beings (Score:2)
What do your co-workers do? (Score:2)
Get plenty of sleep (Score:2)
will have an easier time handling conflict without getting upset by it.
If you follow this advice in addition to whatever else advice you decide
to accept, things will go smoother.
Good luck.
A tactic for the religious (Score:2)
Re:A tactic for the religious (Score:2)
The only way... (Score:2)
Damien
I've found this book helpful (Score:2)
I second that (Score:3, Interesting)
This is the point I was going to make (but I found it here before I got around to posting).
Zen. Take a breath. Then take another breath. Repeat. You don't need to solve this type of problem; you can simply stop having it by letting go of it.
I once worked as a liason to a company run by an amazing person. He jokingly refered to himself as "a type triple-A" personality. He got into a confrontation every five minutes or so, with anyone that was handy. I liked shouting matches.
His assistant was an ev
Corporate Evolution (Score:1, Insightful)
In my experience the person falls into one of two categories.
1. Grumpy old Bastard/Bitch.
Grumpy old Bastard has a set way of doing things, likes some people, dislikes others, is possibly an idiot, possibly emotional etc.
How to deal with Grumpy Old Bastard/Bitch?
This person is the easiest to handle. Grumpy Old Bastard/Bitch above all else wants Respect with a capital R. When you can't do things the Grumpy Old Bastard/Bitch (tm) way, just tell them your rationale and wear th
three words: (Score:2)
Re:three words: (Score:1)
Be honest (Score:2)
Semi-Public Implied Shaming (Score:3, Insightful)
It stopped. He resigned after while, and the sad thing is he had made a boatload of money on the stock exchange!
Of course
If the other suggestions don't work... (Score:2)
I reccomend Dealing with Difficult people. (Score:2)
That is the name of a several hour long video seminar. When I worked at one company my department boss had us all watch it, it's quite good and can definitely help.
Also remember that in many companies Bosses' don't last more than 6 to 12 months before a reorg comes along and he's moved onto someplace else anyway.
Good Luck!
A few books for you. (Score:2)
How To Win Friends and Influence People [amazon.com] - This book will give you a complete guide to being a very, very effective asskisser. Sometimes this is the only way, it will let you turn that arch-en
My personal experience - Some tips (Score:3, Informative)
1. First person communication. Avoid talking behind others backs (especially your boss), deal with problems as directly as possible. Note that this does not mean "deal with the problem with as much hostility as possible." If you have a problem, talk to the person about it. If they are the passive-agressive type that might backlash on you...
2. Do not allow ambiguity, or "unspoken statements", or joking about you to fly when it comes from your boss. For instance, if you get shot a dirty look, you are indirectly attacked or joked about as being lazy, confront it immediately. (Again, this doesn't mean attack, it means confront). Often for passive-agressive personalities, this makes it more difficult for them to "hide their feelings" towards you and can help you to get to the root of the problem...
3. Log, and track everything you do, all the time. This always seems like a horrible thing to go through, but when dealing with someone who is divisive, or who is intentionally attacking you, it's the only way you can fight back. Often these people will tell you they "told you to do something", that they didn't tell you to do. If you have a log of what tasked with, in detail, it makes it difficult for them to say that you didn't do the work. I used to carry a small notepad with me every day...date it at the top...and write down notes as I did work. It shaved an hour of time right out of my day, but that hour would have been spent explaining why I didn't do things that I wasn't asked to do. Also keep track of any time you were treated unfairly, be very specific in case you have to defend your job at some point.
4. Find someone within the organization (the manager of the individual, if applicable) with which you can align yourself. Even if it is simply a coworker, having someone that can back you up in difficult situations can really help. This is all assuming you are not the problem...
5. Get to the root of why you are being treated the way you are. Is everyone in the department having a difficult time with this individual? Are specific people (such as friends of the individual) not having problems? If you are being treated unfairly (which I'm sure we all have at some point), you need to confront it. In my case, the person in question was acting unethically and didn't like the fact that I wouldn't go along with his choices (or state my agreement with them).
6. Understand the rules of your company, and what options you have for dealing with employee/manager conflict. This is a last resort, since once you choose to go down this road, you really can't return unless that person gets fired. If you get to this point, and you've been taking notes, you'll have a very well documented case to give to whomever you report the problem to. If you do choose to take this route, make sure you let your boss know after you do it... The person you reported this to will be surprised when he finds out that you have also notified the target of your complaint, it will serve to make you appear to be acting with the best of intentions in a difficult situation. Anticipate any backlash based on what you know about the person you are complaining about.
The bottom line in all of this is that you must act transparently in this situation, everyone (including the boss with the bad attitude) should know where you stand with them and should be able to tell where you will stand on any issue you deal with. Nobody should be able to question your motives or intent...they should just know them. You should be "advertising" your value through your actions.
Also...recognize that the world isn't fair, and sometimes even when you do what you're supposed to, someone with a bad attitude or suffering from a power-trip is going to win occasionally. As an employee, for the most part, you really have only one power to hold above your boss...the power to find new employment.
In my case, my boss was let go.
What a colossal waste of time. (Score:2)
It shaved an hour of time right out of my day, but that hour would have been spent explaining why I didn't do things that I wasn't asked to do.
Let me guess: You worked for the goverment?
Start with a classic. (Score:2)
How to Win Friends and Influence People [amazon.com], by Dale Carnegie.
It will never go out of date because it works. It may have stories about businessmen from the depression era, but it works.
You can't change your boss. You may only have marginally more of a chance changing your position. But you can change yourself, and How to Win Friends and Influence People is one of the best first steps on that path.
Jeremy
Re:Start with a classic. (Score:2)
I haven't read it, but I'm wondering - how much of the book is actually about making you a better person, as opposed to a person more able to get their way by hook or by crook?
It seemed like the later to me, but a study consisting of one person is meaningless
BTDT (Score:2)
So offensive was she that our normally sweet and joyful receptionist said that she'd have flattened this person if the person wasn't pregnant. The person had never h
intra vs. inter (Score:1)
You need to PHITS! (Score:2)
Drive them out (Score:1)
It could take a couple of months, but in general a "particularly unpleasant person" is their own worst enemy.
@$$#()!3$ (Score:2)
I finally took the time to actually talk to him about his interests, and once he'd actually warmed up to me, he really settled down, seemed self-conscious about the same faults I had noticed. It was then that I realized he wasn't an asshole, just a nerv
Neurolinguistic Programming (Score:1)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/072
I've been in a situation like yours. Twice. (Score:1)
My advice is: play his game, be nice to him and meanwhile find another job. Quick. Yes, it's not fair but life isn't aways fair.
I've been on this situation twice and once I was able to settle everything down and in another the things became so nasty that I just gave up one morning and, even without another job in sight, I quit. It was just impossible to work another day.
Go to your HR department... *now*. (Score:2)
If nothing else, this puts you on the record as wanting to resolve the issue, so that should things escallate, and you get fired by said person (as happened to me), HR has a record of the issue. I was informed later, as I had not complained through the proper chain, that I had nothing to support a claim of harrassment by my boss, etc,