

Best PDA for College? 115
andyic3 asks: "College starts in a month. I've been searching for a very simple, tiny, modern PDA for storing due dates on. I've looked at the REX 6000, but it's too simple. I've looked at PocketPC's, but can't seem to find anything smaller than the old iPaq H1910. I've looked at Palm solutions, but can't find anything there. What's the best PDA for this application?"
A pocket notepad (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:A pocket notepad (Score:3, Insightful)
And I walked thru the snow year round (Score:2)
Re:A pocket notepad (Score:2)
You went to finishing school?
Re:A pocket notepad (Score:1)
Re:A pocket notepad (Score:2)
Keeping track of your class schedule should not be an issue as it will rarely change. By mid o
wrong link (Score:2)
Re:A pocket notepad (Score:1)
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Until you drop it in a puddle, that is. (Score:2)
Useless for notes in engineering though - to hard to draw nice diagrams on anything I've ever seen electronic (equations too).
Re:A pocket notepad (Score:2)
Don't do it! (Score:3, Insightful)
Can't remember a week of appointments, or a few irregular but important dates... is your diary that busy? Need to remember submission dates.. write them on a calendar in your dorm/flat, are you really going to work on something randomly during the day?
Find out why your memory is lacking or diary overly busy - remembering things shouldn't be such a problem. If it is reflect why so.
"There is no cost to writing down on a PDA" - no, not at all. Most importantly, don't let technology disable your inate abilities. Carrying a PDA may feel (self) important but try a role where you actually need one. You'll realise human memory is all important:
With 5+ meetings per day and having to reflect/relay them ad-hoc I can testify that a good memory is all that matters - constantly active, not reflective on what a screen states - a PDA really doesn't matter other than as a backup. Groupworking diaries really don't work unless you're constantly sync'd with others, and is probably out of scope and Blackberry is the only option.
Re:Don't do it! (Score:3, Funny)
Wrong, wrong, wrong! (Score:5, Informative)
Your mind is a terrible place to clutter up with stuff that needs doing. It's why you so often have that vague unease that you're forgetting something important. You probably are. However otherwise brilliant your mind is, it is probably lousy at general organizing and task management (remembering to buy new flashlight batteries when you are already at the grocery store rather than when you grab the flashlight to check on the strange noise at night).
The trick is to find a organizing method that works for you - something that I had not done very well till recently.
My sister got my attention by mentioning that, by her estimates, reading a book called "Getting Things Done" [davidco.com] and implementing many of its ideas had increased her consulting income by $20,000/year. I am rather leary of the managementOrganizationMethodDuJour but I read the book anyway.
I found the book very valuable and especially appreciated the fact that, unlike so many methods that are closely tied to a particular vendor's books or software, this book says it's about understanding some basic principles. If you like Outlook, use Outlook. Palm? Great. Pencil and paper? They work fine, too.
I can't duplicate the whole book here but the most valuable change I've made - and one which changed my Palm from the infrequently-used paperweight it had become into an indispensible tool - was to eliminate the concept of the todo list and implement the concept of the project and the next-action.
The typical Palm user tries to use the thing by agonizing over due-dates and priorities and categorizing items as "work" or "personal", etc. Instead, use the todo feature as a "project" list where a project is defined as "anything you want to get done that will take more than one step".
You will find that almost everything is a project and if you spend a few seconds thinking about the project you can identify the single next-action that will move that project toward completion. The "notes" feature in the todo list works very well for this.
As an example, say your car windshield is cracked then "fix car windshield" is the project. A few moments of thinking takes you from "I need to find a windshield shop" to "Bob at the tennis-club mentioned he liked the place that fixed his" to "I'll call Bob" to "but I don't have his number" to "it's probably in the club roster". OK, the single next action that will move this project forward is to find Bob's number and the place that it can be done is at home when you have the club roster handy.
This leads to the other important change I made after reading the book. My projects are now organized by "context" - basically, where can I accomplish the next-action. The categories that work for me include "at home", "at computer", "at phone", "with wife", etc. For the example above, the project would start in the "at home" category. After I look up the number and scribble it in the note for that project I would move it to the "at phone" category and so on. A project at the "select paint color" stage might be in the "with wife" category. Whenever I need to go to a store I glance at the "errands" category and see what might be combined into the same trip. While the "priority" feature in most listing programs seems like a good idea it matters little if the absolute most-important item is to send an email and you are nowhere near a computer. But if you are waiting for your flight to leave you may be able to pull out your cellphone and use the time to move items in the "at phone" category forward.
One useful category is the "waiting for" category - the rebate that will be coming in 6-8 weeks, the shop that told you that they will get a quote to you by Friday. When your project is on hold for some external reason you move it to "waiting for" and put a due-date in it. If you hav
More deatils (Score:3, Insightful)
Obviously you're looking for something more than you're telling us. Unfortunately, this is slashdot, not the academy of mind readers.
Re:More deatils (Score:5, Funny)
See!
Re:More deatils (Score:1)
FFS (Score:3)
Could you be less specific?
Why don't you actually set out some of your requirements? Then you might actually get some useful answers.
Re:FFS (Score:2)
"I've looked at possible solutions, but can't find anything."
Mobile phone (Score:2, Insightful)
The Hipster PDA (Score:5, Informative)
The Hipster PDA [blogs.com]
To add some tech to it, use GTDTiddlyWiki [snapgrid.com] and print out the index cards.
There is also a D*I*Y Planner [douglasjohnston.net]
Make backups with a photocopier, or just type them in again and reprint.
I've used it. Great But..... (Score:2)
It is fantastic--less distracting than an electronic PDA, no batteries to worry about, readable in BRIGHT daylight, faster data entry, and easier sharing.
But, I find the cards get too banged up. There was some guy who wrapped his in sale cloth & that is a pretty good idea....but then you also lose the shuffability of the system & might as well get a notebook. There are als
Re:The Hipster PDA (Score:2)
But, I really found my Newton to be quite a bit more useful --- the synching and the desktop client wasn't as nice as a Palm Pilot / Desk
Honestly... (Score:2)
Electronic. (Score:5, Insightful)
Sync it every once in a while.
--saint
Re:Electronic. (Score:2)
Of course, if the orignal poster just wants a geek solution, Tigerdirect.com has the Fossil PDA watch [tigerdirect.com] in stock if you want more geek. It's $80.
Hipster PDA . . . (Score:2)
http://merlin.blogs.com/43folders/2004/09/introdu
Don't go there. (Score:2)
So it's clearly a bad idea to have a PDA at college.
If you're like I was, it'll be all you can do to stop playing Quake before the sun comes up so you at least have a chance of making it to your third class without hallucinating little blue dots everywhere you look.
You don't want to have to keep track of a PDA.
Re:Don't go there. (Score:2)
1. Classes (which often changed by the day)
2. Class assignments
3. Meeting and major project schedule for work
4. Meeting, contact info, etc for clients
5. Personal things that I needed to remember
I had a lot of things on my plate (70-80+ hours/week) and forgetting any of them could lead to Bad Things.
REQUIREMENTS (Score:3, Interesting)
How about accepting a better list of requirements from someone who has both been playing with PDAs since the Newton and already graduated from college? This is what I wish I had in 1995- and this is what we have available today from a variety of manufacturers:
A fold-up full sized keyboard for data entry that can fit in your pocket- preferably wireless (either IR or Bluetooth) so that it can be set up quickly.
A good note taking application of some sort- it should accept both typed text and pen drawings.
A good Todo List that links to the calendar in some fashion- to give you early warning of upcoming deadlines and allow you to prioritize assignments.
A reasonable-quality voice recorder- if possible one that you can record up to 90 minutes on and still run the results through a voice recognition program to get text notes out. No matter how fast you are at typing or handwriting you will always miss something in your notes- automatic note taking would be a big plus.
It should have a very large internal memory as well as interface to your desktop machine back at the dorm for backups- ideally every night before you sleep everything you need should both be on the PDA and your desktop machine- and best of all this should be automated.
Anybody else have any other requirments for this young person? Anybody know of a ready technology that fits this list? I've got my own favorite right now (PocketPC HP Ipaq 2210 with Bluetooth Keyboard and Hitachi 2GB CF-form-factor Hard Drive) but I'm pretty sure there's a cheaper linux solution out there as well that also fits the requirements- and there are certainly better PDAs when it comes to the hardware buttons.
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Echo (Score:2)
Laptops are barely more useful. I have a tablet PC now and I imagine that it would have been somewhat use
Re:Echo (Score:2)
Re:Echo (Score:1)
Treo 650 (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Treo 650 (Score:2)
If you're carrying a Cell anyway, the 650 is only as big as the delta between a PDA and a typical Cell. Probably 50%, which is better than most other PDA's.
Plus you can't 'tooth that cute co-ed down front with a pencil and notepad.
Keeping a good calendar and to-do list is important for keeping on top of your college duties.
Zire 21 (Score:2, Informative)
It cost 46 GBP delivered (eBay) lasts weeks on a charge and is generally extremely useful.
I use it for my to-do list (*so* handy to have it sort itself!), university schedule, contact list, friends' tea preferences, birthdays (HappyDays), (slow, emergency) web-browsing via my mobile phone (using EudoraWeb), SSH (TuSSH), a London Underground map (MapMap Lite), a dictionary (Noah Lite - not great but very handy and
The same as for business (Score:2)
Pencil and paper. Because you can never depend on the hot babe to have a PDA that you can beam your name and address to.
"Application"? (Score:1)
What "application?" Recording due dates? Can't you just write them down? Maybe put them into a calendaring app on your computer in your dorm? High technology is not the solution to every problem.
Dawson's Creek Trapper Keeper Futura S2000 (Score:3, Funny)
My $.02 (Score:1)
If you got one I would also reccomend a collapsible keyboard (also on ebay for a few bucks) that made it great for taking notes.
Paper and Pen (Score:2)
zerg (Score:2)
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Re:zerg (Score:2, Interesting)
I mastered the art of how to use a clock about the time I was five. It's not that hard, really. See, when the little hand is on the four, and so is the big hand...
Re:zerg (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:zerg (Score:1)
If you don't want to/can't help the author, shut the fuck up and read some other article on slashdot and stop bitching about how YOU fucking did it better years ago with no shoes, electricity, and only sand and a stick to doodle with.
Next you're gonna remind us how you still walk to work, have no need for this fancy "Email" and "Internet" crap, and all your music is preserved in their original Wax Roll form.
Ass h
Re:zerg (Score:1)
Whereas if the submitter had asked which kind of buggy he could harness to 100 horses to for some major stump-pulling action, you would cast scorn and derision on the suggestion he buy a gas-burning truck.
A solution is a solution, high-tech or no. Sometimes thinking outside the box is a Good Thing.
Next you're gonna remind us how you still walk to work, have no need for this fancy "Email" and "Internet" crap, and all yo
Re:zerg (Score:1)
Not scorn, so much, more like disbelief and only if he ALSO asked whether it was a good idea... there's a difference.... The Author didn't ask if we thought he should just use pen and paper. Going to college I think it could be assumed that he has used them before.
Wax Rolls are EMP proof.
But they sound like shit.
And if we would start forward thinking instead of relying on old war fighting tactics, maybe we wouldn't NEED something to be EMP proof. Now
"a stick to doodle with" (Score:1)
Re:zerg (Score:2)
That's hooey. I'm a senior now, and I'm focused enough in an english major that I generally just have a few large papers to turn in during the quarter that are easy to remember. But, back when I was a freshman, taking generals all over the place, I would sit down at the beginning of the quarter with my syllabi and put all of my assignments in as Calendar events in outlook, set alarm notifications 24
Re:zerg (Score:2)
After two days at college, I had my class schedule memorized. I don't get why one would need a PDA for that.
Party on Friday? No way I'd forget that either.
Windows Mobile? (Score:2)
http://www.mtekk.com.au/browse/page826.html [mtekk.com.au]
"A known problem with WM2003 is that the first alarm of the day can be rather unreliable. Users regularly report that the first alarm of the day doesn't always trigger until the device is turned on by the user, whereupon all outstanding alarms then trigger immediately."
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Re:The best PDA for college... (Score:2)
I spent my Data Structures class reading the Count of Monte Cristo on my PalmPro. Where there's a will to slack, there's a way.
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Danger! (Score:1)
Re:Danger! (Score:1)
Storing due dates is the most basic function (Score:2)
I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, but storing due dates is the most basic function that any hendheld device can perform. Even my cell phone does a pretty good job with that.
Are you looking for some specific function beyond basic scheduling?
I know that this does not answer your question, but I've used PDA's for similar functions and found that I was much more efficient with a scheduling book. YMMV.
Only storing due dates? (Score:3, Insightful)
My cell also has audio recording... so if I need to quickly store an idea or record a snippet, I just record it into the phone's buffer and transcribe it later. Many brilliant spur-of-the-moment ideas were saved this way.
I used to carry a Palm, but it was just too inconvenient to whip out during the winter (have to unzip my winter jacket, wait for the screen to warm up etc.) And any Palm is too big to stuff in my trouser pocket.
If you want a PDA to take notes... ah... now that's different. Nothing beats pen and paper for resolution, speed, and freedom of positioning. No tablet or PDA can beat the resolution of crisp handwritten text. Really.
If you have a good system for note taking, e.g. the Cornell note taking system [westshore.edu], you don't need to resort to any digital means for taking notes.
If your handwriting is bad, improve it.
Re:Only storing due dates? (Score:2)
Re:Only storing due dates? (Score:2)
In a sense, it's similar to these little credit card sized doohickeys [tinyurl.com], but having it on your cell just means one less thing to remember to carry with you.
Do you really need a PDA? (Score:2)
This is a question you should ask yourself.
Most people don't need a PDA. There have been extremely few times in life where I've been presented with a situation where a PDA would have solved a problem.
What kind of grammars are you looking to parse? Are you sure a DFA wouldn't do just as well? They're a lot cheaper you know, not to mention a lot easier to manage. Sure, your language set is limited, but then, do you REALLY need to understand all context free languages?
-Laxitive
Re:Do you really need a PDA? (Score:1)
Have you looked at smartphones? (Score:1)
http://www.series60.com/products [series60.com]
Re:Have you looked at smartphones? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Have you looked at smartphones? (Score:1)
Something cheap (Score:2)
Seriously, I know
Been there (Score:5, Insightful)
That little thing was a HUGE help. My schedule was very fragmented, and I'm slow to memorize schedules, especially when they're layered and alternating. Needless to say, I used my palm every day. Most days it would be the first thing I looked at when I got up in the morning (usually just to judge how much time I needed to get ready). I also looked at it between classes; it helped me figure out where to go and when I needed to be there.
That was the most important function to me. I also ended up making extensive use of the phone book and memo functions. The task list helped remind me of important assignments, but I didn't catalog all due dates on the thing.
I know palms are not the hottest things anymore, but let's face it; you especially don't want an entertainment machine. As other posters have stressed, you don't want wi-fi, games, videos, or other really cool programs. You want something to help you work. In my opinion, the palm does this well with good, solid core applications. I also use a GPL program on the side to calculate my gas mileage on my car (sourceforge does wonders).
A good thing to do is find an older palm. The basic functionality of palmOS hasn't changed much at all, and you'll get a great price on a small handheld if you go used/discontinued/refurbished/whatever.
Also, other posters mention the effectiveness of paper and pencil. Beware. I'm the type that's rather loose with papers. Things in writing can be difficult to keep structured and organized if you're me, and papers get lost all the time, not to mention that they are a hassle to carry. A PDA like my palm makes all my data microscopic, automatically organized, and easily sortable and searchable. I find this more convenient and portable than a pencil and paper solution. That's just me.
Find a system that works best for you, but I do definitely recommend a cheap palm. If you do in fact prefer Windows pocket edition for whatever reason (can you say nethack [nethack.org]?), an older generation pocketpc is also a handy thing.
The Palm M500 (Score:2, Informative)
Budweiser (Score:1)
Tungsten C (Score:1)
Blackberry (Score:2)
Re:Blackberry (Score:2)
Really I liek the intuitive typing / symbol layout. It is easy to access lesser used keys. Much easier than when using a palm,or an
Palm Tungsten (Score:2, Informative)
Forget it, go paper (Score:1)
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Palm does do college-useable stuff (Score:3, Insightful)
Has everything I need: morning waking up alarm, "appointments" which are my classes with 5 minute reminders, since I don't carry a watch, address book, memo pads, notepad functionality (still missing the printer to hand your number to a hottie, but I bet the next version will have it), and for deadlines, well, just make them as appointments with a week or 2 worth of reminders.
Not only that, but the palm's interface is well thought out, even though people are reluctant to learn grafiti to use it efficiently.
Seriously, either a palm will fill your needs with a tad of creativity on your side, or you're going to have to lug your laptop around to use your favorite calendar app everywhere.
This is from a CS major too, and there's no cheaper and easier way than to adapt your habits to a PDA's capabilities than the other way around.
Re:Palm does do college-useable stuff (Score:2)
The calendar app is great, and works perfectly to schedule everything. I recently entered my Fall '05 schedule into it, making it the fourth quarter I've used it. Classes ar
Buy a subscription to Time Life Books! (Score:2)
Try before you buy (Score:1)
GO FOR THE WATCH (Score:2)
FWIW, though, I say bite the bullet and get a real Palm.
Buy the cheapest used pda you can find. (Score:3, Interesting)
You may find that you use it constantly. Certainly true if your memory for names and numbers is anything like mine. If so, then you'll be in a position to make an informed choice when you buy the newest model in a few months. Informed, in this case, means that you'll know what features you'll actually use on a pda.
Or, you may find that you never touch the thing. Then you'll have saved hundreds of dollars that you can spend on something you really will use.
Or, you may find that you're the kind of person who destroys or loses several of pda's every year, in which case a constant supply of old cheap ones may be the ideal solution.
You can find used palm-IIIc's for $25, aftermarket new ones for a little more. Or, if any friends of family are pda users, they may will just hand you their old model if you ask them for it. (I've gone through two models this way myself, and passed each along to other people when upgrade time came.)
The only caveat is that the newer high(er) resolution screens are a lot nicer for reading lots of text. If you plan to view books on the thing, then the older models just won't cut it. (But unless you work in a cleanroom or you like to read in bed and you share a bedroom with someone who goes to sleep earlier than you, you may well find reading books on a pda isn't something you ever want to do.)
Pencil and Paper (Score:2)
No, you can't have both.
ACECAD USB Digital Clipboard Memopad (Score:1)
I found that for a lot of my consulting work keeping notes on plain old paper suits me best, however I make a lot of diagrams, notes and sketches. The beauty of it is you have a backup paper hard copy and another version which you can import into my computer where I get to add them to various items.
There are two versions of this gizmo the 501 and 692. Major difference between DigiMemo 692 & A501
Re:ACECAD USB Digital Clipboard Memopad (Score:2)
-everphilski-
my PDA (Score:1)
PDA [officedepot.com]
And don't forget, most PDAs come with crappy stylii. I would go ahead and upgrade to a better stylus while you buy the PDA.one of my favorates [officedepot.com]
Go Palm (Score:1)
Dayplanner (Score:2)
Very visual, fits easily in backpack, can be sat on, does not crash or fail or consume batteries, is large enough to see all of October and excatly why the third week in October is going to suck. They also have a page for writing in your default we
Palm Zire 31 (Score:2, Informative)
I've had many PDAs starting from the Compaq Aero 1500, a few iPAQs, etc and I love the Zire 31 above all others.
What it doesn't have:
Bluetooth
Wifi
CF slot
What it does have:
SD Slot
Color screen - but you can't read it in direct sunlight
PalmOS 5
VERY Small size
Good battery life
MP3 player - sound pretty good!
IR port - was great getting numbers off my cell phone
16MB Ram
I use my 31 for ebooks, quick notes, tech manuals (PD
GTD and Hipster (Score:2)
2)Construct yourself a "Hipster" PDA [43folders.com]
3)Buy a paper calendar
No PDA or software can beat GTD and a hipster.
Apple Newton. Seriously. (Score:2)
If you really do want a PDA that can handle reminders *and* take decent notes, then the only real option is the Apple Messagepad 2100. You can pick them up on eBay for a pretty low price.
Why the Newton?
First, the user interface is designed around getting things done. Simple notepad-like gestures (ie: scribble over something to erase it) means that you don't have to deal with navigating menu systems to find things.
Secondly, the screen is large enough to actually take notes on if you really wa
powerbook (Score:1)
Phone (Score:2)
The freebie calendar (Score:2)
Plus, you're a college student. Go spend that money that you would have spent on a PDA on something more useful for college students, like a keg cooler or maybe a semester's worth of books (if you feel like it).
psion revo (Score:1)
Use ipod + voice msg (Score:1)
Dell Axim x30 (Score:1)