What Should People Understand About Computers? 962
counterexample asks: "It seems to me that there aren't very many good books out there that explain to the layman what is really going on with computers. My mother cannot go to the bookstore and pick up a book that will make her understand the strange language that we IT people speak, or why her computer would be susceptible to a virus. So, I intend to write such a book. I have a fair idea of what should be in it (history of the Internet, how computers talk to each other, what a hard drive does, etc.), but I'm interested to see what you all have to say. What do you wish your users knew? What kind of questions are you so sick of answering because you hear them every week? What does the general public think they understand, but really don't?"
More like where do you draw the line? (Score:5, Insightful)
You are about to undertake a Herculean task in that you are now required to omit certain things which we may all know. I think your strategy should concentrate on figuring out how simply you can describe something without causing more confusion and questions.
I would suggest analyzing The New Way Things Work [houghtonmifflinbooks.com] by David Macaulay because he does a good job at using simple illustrations and brought me up to speed on a lot of engineering ideas when I was only in fifth grade. I would try to mimic him and use his level of detail as a template into what the common person is ready to ingest.
Perhaps you should also change your strategy from "What do I include?" to "Where do I draw the line?" Start with a computer and describe the monitor, mouse, keyboard, box, printer, etc. in a high level. These are the obvious things you see. Then you can take and chapter by chapter explain each component down to as much detail as you want to. I would then have a chapter on communications and the internet that doesn't go all the way down to protocols.
Allow me to illustrate what kind of people you should aim this book at in this telephone call between me and my mother:
Me: Ok, tell me what the screen says now.
Mom: It's blue.
Me: What do you mean "it's blue"? What does it say?
Mom: It says, "9F D8 34 7B
Me: Um, that's ok, ma, I don't speak hex.
Mom: "... FA 25 3C A2
One more thing, I shudder at the possibility of the history of computers being taught to my parents. This is more information that isn't really pertinent to what a layperson needs to know about computers. I would suggest delving into this as little as possible but historical facts always make reading interesting if you want to include little side notes.
As with most projects undertaken--keep it simple, stupid!
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:5, Funny)
All software installed on the computer when you get it is part of a complex enchantment; to attempt to remove any bundled software or to even look at configuration options is to destroy the enchantments and render your computer a worthless heap of metal.
The internet is an evil place where every website is either a lie or an attempt to lure children to molesters. Of course, email from your friends is always safe - after all, your friends would never send you a malicious file.
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:4, Funny)
Reminds me of that BOFH issue where the BOFH got a user to fry his power supply. "See that puff of smoke? Your computer doesn't work any more because you let the magic smoke escape!" Priceless.
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:3, Interesting)
This is also the place where your kids learn to build bombs and shoot guns. According to my local TV station it seems that society went for years and years without murder or bombs but since this internet thing... woo! crimes just everywhere and what motivated all these people to suddenly apply their high school chemistry knowledge? The Internet of course.
They also said that playing video games is
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:5, Interesting)
You can't teach them enough to be fully competent. If you teach them a little, you just make them dangerous, able to screw up on a much more profound level.
Solution? Teach them as little as possible.
This goes against my grain. I love teaching people things. But whenever I show someone how to do something, inevitably, destruction ensues.
How many user problems arise from them trying to install software? Solution: make it so they can't install software. Give them access to system files? Not if you don't want them to throw them away later, out of boredom. Let them configure their own apps? Are you out of your MIND?
I used to work in my university computer lab. When you logged into a computer, it would build your system profile for you, from stored settings (not thin client, mind you, it pulled down everything you needed and wrote it on the local harddrive). Applications were served from central servers. Files were saved in your serverside directory.
When you logged off, it went through and ran a cleanup app that expunged every trace of your presence, checked all the system files, and replaced any that had been modified in ANY WAY. Five minutes later, a perfectly clean machine was ready for another user. The only real problem we had with it was that it was rough as hell on the harddrive, so the replacement rate was pretty high.
Every place I've worked since then, I've longed for that level of control. No viruses, no wierd errors. Worst case scenario, you replace the harddrive and run a build script.
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:3, Insightful)
Maybe an easy to use version of "system restore" would give people the nerve to try some things, and if whatever they try fails: just push some reset button and a default OS magically respawns. Fear of doing something wrong again after a bad experience with computers s
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:5, Insightful)
Every place I've worked since then, I've longed for that level of control.
Unfortunately, you give the game away with your last statement. Systems administrators love to have absolute power and it does avoid all those tedious problems of sorting out machines their users have broken. The problem is that unless they are really well resourced they won't be able to do everything the users need doing in the timescales that are necessary.
But worse still, in your effort to protect the unsophisticated users from themselves, you inevitably hamstring the more sophisticated users.
It's all very well saying that all requests for new software have to go through IT support. But then one of your sophisticated users wants some highly specialised piece of software that could just be downloaded and installed in 15 minutes. No one in IT has even heard of it before. It has to be approved and scripted, and while there is one user waiting for this there are 200 clamouring for the upgrade to MS Project. The result is that you're lucky to get it any time in the next 10 weeks. Something you could have installed yourself in 15 minutes if only IT would drop their one-size-fits-all policy and give trust where trust is due.
Sorry, rant over
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:3, Insightful)
Well, it's pretty common to spend 5 minutes fixing the users reported problem and then the next hour or more fixing all the damage they did trying to fix it themselves.
But worse still, in your effort to protect the unsophisticated users from themselves, you inevitably hamstring the more sophisticated users.
I don't know if it works like this everywhere but of
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:3, Insightful)
The problem with the "teach them nothing" idea is that unless you blindfold them and stuff their ears with cotton every moment of their lives -- and force the enterprising Helen Kellers of the world to wear boxing gloves -- the user will somewhere, at some time, pick up something that they'll want to try.
Consider them contaminated at that point.
In the case of a little dangerous
I wholeheartedly agree cuz I'm an idiot (Score:3, Insightful)
And I'm a computer programmer!
Every system I work on has been loaded with so many mods, filled with so many performance tweaks and hacks, had everything overclockable overclocked, that nothing I touch is stable anymore. Sometimes I wish I didn't know about any of this stuff just so that I wouldn't ruin my system and have to do an OS reinstall monthly. I'm a living testament to
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:5, Insightful)
My ancestors (parents and grandparents) are a naturally inquisitive people. Any attempt to teach them things about computers may only leave them more confused and full of questions.
Maybe i'm a cynic but I believe that most people don't care about computers for the same reason they don't care about anything else. The average layperson isn't curious at all! Slashdot is full of nerds. We read about nanobots, particle physics, and GPL drafts in our spare time. Besides, when's the last time an average person has read a book? (bonus points for non-fiction) Inquisitive people, like you or I, are the type of people that will read a wikipedia page and then read all the connecting pages until a good hour has been spent. Curious people have enough self-motivation to do their own research and will do so from multiple sources.
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:5, Insightful)
Think of what most people get if they ask a question about computers. If they don't outright get told that there's 'no reason for them to know,' or 'it's too complicated for me to explain,' either they get some sort of patronizing explanation that they themselves know isn't true, or one so loaded with technical detail that they feel like an imbecile for asking. It's either the children's book or the technical manual; there's no middle ground. And it really only takes one bad experience to throw someone off a subject that they're only peripherally interested in.
I don't think this is necessarily specific to computers, though. Most people don't really know how their television, automobile transmission, or microwave works. Every once in a while they might get curious and wonder what's going on inside, but they know that if they ask a really knowledgable person a question (e.g. if they ask a mechanic about a transmission) they'll probably either get brushed off or get an incomprehensible response. So they shrug and go on in ignorance.
Personally I think the internet is very slowly beginning to change that. When you have immediate access to information on practially anything -- and especially technical topics -- it becomes a lot less painful to fulfill that momentary impulse to learn. You don't have to go to a library, you don't have to find an expert, and you can read as much or as little as you like. "More than you want to know about just about anything" is just a HowStuffWorks, Wikipedia, or Google query away.
Just as a personal anecdote, I've noticed that my father (who is in his late 60s, and was until recently of the ardent conviction that typing was for secretaries) uses the internet constantly when he's watching television. The last time I was home, we were watching a movie he saw as a young man (Ben Hur, I believe) and he recalled that when the movie had originally been released, a big deal had been made of how it was shot in "Panavision"; however he'd never been totally clear what Panavision was. So as we were sitting there he grabbed his laptop, typed "Panavision" into wikipedia, and answered a 47-year-long 'mild curiosity' in about ten minutes.
My point in all this is that you have to present information to people in a way that's easily -- perhaps instanly -- accessible. Start simply, and work up from there. Don't try to force anything on them; if and when they want to know something (if you do your job right) they'll find you and satisfy themselves. I think Wikipedia and HowStuffWorks are great because it lets someone who's just mildly curious about something to find an answer to their question in a satisfying way, so that the next time they're curious about something, they won't repress the urge to find out. Plus if they're more than just mildly curious, they both provide ways to learn more about a topic, or about related topics.
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:4, Insightful)
>for drunken debates at parties.
Just remember to restore the page to it's original state after you've collected on the bet.
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:3, Insightful)
I've spoken to people who have bragged that they've never read a book since they graduated from High School. I also have a friend who's severely dyslexic, but reads more books than most people every year, because he doesn't let his dyslexia stop him. Not only does he read, he reads science-fiction, mostly, and is proud when he can finish a book in under a week and comprehend it. For him, that's a major achievement. What really gets me is
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:3, Insightful)
you got a lot of nerve to ask that from a bunch of mostly self-taught persons. there is a wonderful feeling of accomplishment when you figure out something for yourself, and i cant help wondering why people need constant hand-holding for everything computer related.
all the information you need is right there at your fingertips. if you `have better things to do with your time than dig around
Cars and Computers (Score:5, Funny)
I agree.
The book should take on the angle of driving a car.
ANALOGIES
Controls: keyboard and mouse
Engine: OS
Bumpers: AV software
Crooked mechanic: Windows update
Lemons: Windows (please pass a lemon law for this crap OS)
Mclaren F1: GNU/Linux (or is linux an original VW which became a porsche?)
Car Jackers: script kiddies/spyware/adware
Of course You need road signs, maps, short cuts, scenic routes and many other things. "Drivers training" should be a requirement.
(copywrite Ken Wood 2006)
Re:Cars and Computers (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Cars and Computers (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Cars and Computers (Score:5, Interesting)
True story: I was in a major computer store when a perplexed looking man, probably about 60, asked me if I knew anything about the USB keys they had. He wanted to store some letters on it (probably saved from Word.. didn't ask), and his outlook contacts list.
I started with 'well a 16mb is cheap and will do what you need I think' but he looked perplexed.. time for an analogy. '1 megabyte is about 1 floppy, so 16 megabytes is 16 floppies'. It was like watching a light switch on - the analogy had allowed him to make the connection between something he knew (floppy disks) to something he didn't know (what a megabyte was). His next question was, 'ah, so that one is the size of 256 floppies'.. and he was well on his way to making an intelligent buying choice.
Re:Cars and Computers (Score:5, Insightful)
Like most people who just "get by" using computers, she is terrified of messing with options, and jumping through menus.
Whenener she has a problem with a piece of software I've never touched (yet I'm expected to "fix"), I make it clear to her that I have no clue exactly how to fix it, but I tell her what kind of thing I'm looking for...a settings window, a configuration wizard, etc. And I explain to her quite clearly that she can't break anything by messing with these options...she can always undo something.
Now that she realizes that many programs offer similar basic features, but just present them in their own way, she is more confident with finding the solution to common problems she encounters (and calls me very rarely about problems).
It is all about the approach. I used to have to install GAMES for this woman.
Analogies "b" great. (Score:3, Interesting)
A sudoku puzzle, when complete, contains more digits than it does when unsolved. Yet there is only one solution to a given sudoku puzzle. So the starting state, which contains far less information, implies a larger volume of information which is unique to that starting state. Thus you can express the outcome of 81 digits using only some sma
Re:Cars and Computers (Score:3, Insightful)
I mean, would you have ever have learned to drive if your
Another analogy (Score:5, Insightful)
Imagine you are going to solve a problem and you have no long term memory. You have only a notebook, a calculator and a library.
- The CPU is like your mind and calculator: Fast enough for simple problems but you can't do everything in your head.
- The Cache is your short term memory. You don't need to reread things in the front of your notebook over and over.
- The Memory is like your notebook. You can look through it fairly quickly but it can only hold so much.
- The harddrive is the library. It holds vast amounts of information but takes a long time to find what you need. Once you find it you can photocopy things and add them to your notebook. If your notebook is full you will throw away old papers.
You can expand on this analogy to say that some books hold information while others hold instructions and references to other books.
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:5, Insightful)
Mom: It's blue.
Me: What do you mean "it's blue"? What does it say?
Mom: It says, "9F D8 34 7B
Me: Um, that's ok, ma, I don't speak hex.
Mom: "... FA 25 3C A2
That's a very important point, no matter how much we know about the technical details of computer operation, the biggest difference between "us" and "them" ( = the proverbial mum) remains the mental "spam filter" that allows us to focus on the relevant parts of the UI presentation.
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:5, Informative)
My parents must read every character on the screen before they can gather a single piece of data from it. They cannot interact with the computer until they have viewed, thought about, squinted at, photographed, printed the photo of, discarded the photo of, composted the photo of, and grown a new tree out of that photo, of every pixel.
Users can't read you the part you need because, with the possible exception of something that is obviously a cheesecake recipe, everything on the screen is nonsense to them. Maybe Cliff could attempt to quantify and describe the filters used by us geeks to read only the important stuff. Extra credit if you can teach them to correctly operate "OK" and "Cancel" buttons in other languages/broken video cards/buggy software (more extra credit if they can do it ambi-interfacedly -- mouse and/or keyboard).
That reminds me: One thing that should definitely be covered is the 3-way "Save file" dialog that comes up when exiting a program/shutting down, and similar dialogs, that offer "Yes", "No", and "Cancel". This confuses the heck out of many users, and it's not reasonable to expect them to figure it out on their own unless they're geeks. They need to know that "Cancel" is a sure-fire way to get nothing done and be back where they started, and that they need to click "No" if they want to continue exiting the program but don't want to save the file. A sidebar should explain that walking away from the dialog will result in the computer waiting forever, and probably an "End task?" dialog will come up too.
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:5, Insightful)
Thirty years experience will do that to you. Moreover, thirty years experience will do that to any of us. We have built in junk filters because we've seen the amazing bluescreen a zillion times. Our eyes automatically zero in on the actual error, because we've trained them to do it, error after error, for 16-19 years now.
The problem is, there is no way you can teach experience. In a way that's good because if you could, most of us'd be out of a job. But in situations like this, is damn inconvenient.
Recommended Books (Score:3, Insightful)
Things like the difference between the left mouse button and right mouse button. (primary and secondary click, secondary click = menus, etc) Which everyone one knows, but not really, not for true beginners.
Lots of visuals, with just one concept covered per page.
Strangely enough the cartoon floppy disk character pointing at important things actually improves the effectiveness of the text for beginners, instead of usin
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:3, Informative)
Yes/No questions are your best friend.
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:5, Funny)
Mom: It's blue.
Me: What do you mean "it's blue"? What does it say?
Mom: It says, "9F D8 34 7B
Me: Um, that's ok, ma, I don't speak hex.
Mom: "... FA 25 3C A2
What kind of computer program does that?
Modern computers have a little screen that pops up if the OS crashes, that tells you in 5 or so languages to hold down your power button for a few seconds, and restart the machine. They also ask you on reboot if you want to send a bug report back to the manufacturer so they can fix the problem.
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:3, Informative)
I'm sure Steve Jobs scrutinized every pixel of that in countless meetings, screamed at at least one employee who didn't quite get it right, and finally, well, he has the prettiest crash message that exists, yes, in five different languages.
As long as it's not you he's screaming at
An even mor terrifying example (Score:4, Funny)
Me: Ok, now that I've installed your first DVD player and shown you the play and stop buttons, let me explain the menu.
My Mother-in-law: No, I really don't need to know about that.
Me: Oh, it's simple, you just move these arrows around, and you can select the scene you want to jump to, and so on.
M-I-L: No, I think that will just confuse me.
Me (remembering that she didn't know how to work the thermostat after her husband died): Yeah, OK, maybe all you need to know is the controls that work like the VCR: fast forward, rewind, play,...
M-I-L: Which, frankly, I never really understood...
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:5, Informative)
It's kind of like taking your car into the shop. A lot of people will be nervous in front of the mechanic and not want to describe what the problem is with the car because they don't know the terminology or where the problem could be. Instead they'll say it sounds like the catalytic converter is overheating the timing belt on the radiator exhaust manifold piston: a bunch of useless information. Nervousness breeds uncertainty breeds impatience breeds hositility, and the same is true with computers.
The problem is often that the person providing support doesn't ask the right questions. Some of the best support I've gotten has been from people that led me to the answers. The questions in your example are perfect: "What does the screen say?" and "What do you mean 'it's blue,' what does it say?" Screens don't say anything, they have things printed on them, and when the user gives you an answer, it doesn't help to ask them a ridiculing question ("what do you mean, 'it's blue?'" (hint: they mean 'it's blue')) and then repeat your original question. It gets you nowhere (as you demonstrated). When it's expected that there's a whole lot of useless information (a hex dump) and a little bit of useful information (IRQ NOT LESS OR EQUAL TO), it's the job of the person providing support to lead the user to the answer. Try the exchange:
You: "The screen should be light blue with a white box for a password below your username. Do you see that?"
Mom: "The screen's dark blue and it has a bunch of white text."
You: "OK, there should be a bunch of random text at the top, with the letters A through F and the numbers 0 through 9. Ignore that part; we're looking for the first line below all the random text that has actual words in it. Read me that line."
Like you said, people aren't dumb and they're naturally inquisitive. Leading them through the troubleshooting steps makes support a lot easier and productive. Most of the problems I see with support analysts is that they don't know how to ask the right questions, not that the user is too dumb to understand. Even the dumbest user can be helped if they're willing and if the support person has the right skills.
Some history is good, it explains things (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:5, Insightful)
You really think so?
Personally, I LIKE having the world's largest information store and community center available at my fingertips, and I wouldn't go back to DOS 5.0, dial-up BBSes at 9600k, or long walks to the library to look up simple facts for any amount of money.
Re:More like where do you draw the line? (Score:3, Interesting)
I personally like getting out for a nice walk down to the library every now and then. However, if every time I went out to make this walk I ended up taking wrong turn after wrong turn, ended up getting completely lost to the point I couldn't find my way home again, and just as I'm about to give up and ca
Re: Basic File Management (Score:5, Informative)
A "file" is data or a document of some sort. It may be letter, a photo, a song, a video, a shopping list, a piece of a program, a piece of the operating system, a piece of adware, an insurance form, a contract, or whatever. A "folder" is a container that can contain many files, can contain folders, and can be found in a folder.
A file has a "location" in the file system. When you save it, if you know it's location, you have lots of power. For example, if you save a file in Microsoft Word, and want to start using Open Office, you simply need to know the location of the file. If you download your music in iTunes, and want to listen to it in MusicMatch Jukebox, you must merely know it's location. If you don't know the location of your file, your geek won't be able to find it either, so don't bother him until you know.
You describe the location of a file by listing the folder where the file can be found, the folder in which that folder can be found, ad nauseum, with the "backslash" character ("\") in between, and the drive letter followed by a colon before, so a location looks like d:\outerfolder\middlefolder\middlefolder\innerfol
You have my permission to use any or all of that, verbatim or modified, and take credit for it as your own.
My mother cannot grasp the concept of folders. She puts every document relating to one theme in a single file; she prints out whatever pages of that file matter for a single document. It's a terrible system.
No non-geek understands file locations. Even semi-geeks may only partially understand; I can think of two or three people who know where their MS Word files are, but don't even understand that eMule or iTunes keeps their music in files located in the filesystem.
On a separate topic, maybe the concept of email delivery would be useful (user clicks "send", his computer attempts to deliver mail to server [post office analogy]; then server attempts to deliver to destination server [post office analogy again]; then receiving user MUST connect to server [post office analogy again] to retrieve their mail). Oh, and the difference between a web address and an email address (the "@" signifies a person's name "at" a place, while a web address is just a place).
Re: Basic File Management (Score:3, Informative)
I get so sick of asking people where foo.doc is and being told "It's in Word."
Word, (Excel, et.al.) is a tool, not a place.
The physical world equivalent would be asking
"Where do keep your screws?"
"In my screwdriver."
Re: Basic File Management (Score:3, Interesting)
I used to work woth a woman (mid-60s) who printed out every email she got, and stored them in a filing cabinet under the sender's name, in date order. Occasionally she'd call us in the tech department to ask us to help her find emails she remembered, but couldn't locate in her filing cabinet. After a couple of such calls, with the blessing of the head of IT, we sat down with her and told her that we could only help her if she was using elect
Re: Basic File Management (Score:4, Insightful)
To go along with this, one key point : "Yes, it really is just ones and zeroes"
I think that a lot of people have conceptual issues when trying to accept that it is all just information. People I know are completely floored when they learn that they can do the same things to any JPEG. Whether they downloaded it from a web page on the internet, or scanned it, or got it in an email, or shot it on a digicam, etc. They are somehow convinced that the computer thinks it is something completely different, depending on where it came from. My friend recently got a scanner after having the photo developer give him a CD of JPEG's. He was convinced that emailing the JPEG's from his scanner would be a completely different process than emailing JPEG's from a CD.
Once you can convince people how simple it really is, how stupid the computer really is, how all the information is in a file, and all the files are just information, then you have come a *loooong* way in improving their ability to interact with the computer.
My dad seems basically unable to really grasp this. It comes up in sort of odd places, and catches me compoletely off guard in conversations. It really doesn't occur to me to make a distinction between a video file I captured from my TV card, or downloaded, or rendered, etc. The fact that I can use the same video player utility to play BBC programs as I use for ones I recorded here in Colorado is stunning to him. It just sort of won't fully integrate in his mind.
After they know about computer internals... (Score:5, Interesting)
Stop using the web for free porn and crack sites (mostly if using ie) firefox and thunderbird replace the normal xp offerings well. You don't need a computer that is all singing and dancing just to use word and msn, or just buy a mac.
Buying a centrino laptop doesn't give you magic access to the internet (legally), stop plugging in usb stuff without the drivers first; erm, and the cdrom is not a damn cup holder!
use linux, openoffice ect...
Re:After they know about computer internals... (Score:4, Insightful)
I got one (Score:5, Funny)
Women.
Re:I got one (Score:2)
Sadly... (Score:2)
{...boy am I in trouble now...}
Re:Sadly... (Score:5, Funny)
I think "general public" includes women themselves....
You must be new here.
Re:Sadly... (Score:4, Funny)
The fact he didn't know enough about women to know they are part of the general public makes it obvious that he is NOT new here.
First thing's first (Score:5, Funny)
Re:First thing's first (Score:4, Interesting)
I started asking them about the computers and the sales lady though I was some average user who thinks it all smoke and magic inside the box. She was saying the cpu (computer itself) had a a gforce4 proccesor 80 gig of memory a 10-100k modem and they could UPLOAD Windows Office (?WinXP?) onto it for an extra $25.
People have actualy taken the public's misunderstanding of computers and turned it into a selling point. Chances are, people call things the wrong way because it was presented to them by someone trying to scam them. I remember taking a computer to the shop to get a cdrom replaced once when I didn't have the time. The tech told me it needed a "plug and play card" because it is the reason the old cdrom quit (not because I spilled coffee (or beer) on it when I droped a cup.). I ended up spending $40 just to get my systems back and install a CDrom from somewere else myself.
Know how to drive but not where they are. (Score:5, Insightful)
They will always blame the wrong part for their problems.
My Computer is Broken! When When MS Word fails to open.
Windows Sucks! When the system wont Boot because the computer hardware failed.
The Internet Is Down! When Windows somehow lost all its drives and fails boot.
My Computer is slow, I need a faster one! When there are 1000s of spyware apps running
What people need to know is what part of the computer does what type of job and how to at least say where the problem is.
They should know when the Harddrive is clicking away or when sending information over the network.
Re:Know how to drive but not where they are. (Score:3, Insightful)
That is so true. And the reason is to us is that we don't know where to start to fix their problem. My mother actually calls everything she sees on the screen as "Microsoft". Scary.
I don't know how to fix the problem. I mean, most people have
Re:Know how to drive but not where they are. (Score:3, Interesting)
No, what they need is a machine that's reliable so that if something goes REALLY wrong, they don't feel stupid about calling a computer technician or taking it to a repair desk to fix it.
e.g.:
My Computer is Broken! When When MS Word fails to open.
MS Word shouldn't be so darn fickle. There are hundreds of ways to break it, that will easily put a user out of commission. My favorite? When Wi
For Dummies (Score:2, Informative)
essentials (Score:2)
Look in your glove box. (Score:5, Insightful)
I would suggest that this be your state of mind when writing your computer manual. I.e. focus on how to use it and how to take care of it.
Re:Look in your glove box. (Score:3, Insightful)
Not so much a content suggestion... (Score:4, Interesting)
Then from there, the next sections would go one step beyond that. So the first part would be to talk about what the computer is, then the second part would talk about how memory works, etc. So at any point if the person gets spooked by any of it they can just stop where they are and have a good amount of knowledge. Make it easy for it to be a gentle progression.
lost cause! :P (Score:2, Insightful)
People tend to learn on a step by step basis depending on the interest in any specific subject.
meaning if i am interested in learning quantum science. no mather how hard it is, I will keep on trying. well if i don't fell the need for it, i will give up and say its non sense.
So just grab your latest for dummie book and hand it over to your mom. If she REALLY wants to under
I've got plenty of ideas... (Score:5, Funny)
What kind of questions are you so sick of answern? (Score:4, Insightful)
I think that's the wrong approach - it's like asking a calc TA what questions he got asked most during the term. How do I do problem #3 isn't terribly useful to put in a book - next year they'll have to know how to do problem #4. So it goes with computers. Many questions can be "answered" without giving any real insight to the end reader/user. Be careful - you have to teach basics
That said...
I remember having to go through contortions to explain the concept of a "file" and "directory" to my mom. Just how technical *do* you get? "Any file is just a bunch of data" can be a bit confusing...
--LWM
Try showing her an online source of help. (Score:2)
While I find books quite useful for learning about coding and such, many other non-technical people might find it more useful to use an online resource like http://computer.howstuffworks.com/ [howstuffworks.com]
There are plenty of visual aids and easy to follow diagrams. Give that a shot and see if it helps or inspires your book.
http://religiousfreaks.com/ [religiousfreaks.com]
Everything that I learned on /. (Score:2, Interesting)
Do not log in as admin
Have other accounts besides owner or User
Use Firefox
Use Firebird
Use AVG Free
Try not to use Windows :-)
When in doubt-be paraniod!
start with the basics (Score:2)
No dooms day device (Score:2)
You expect people to actually read this thing? (Score:2)
Good luck with your book, you're going to need it...
Proprietary Design (Score:2, Insightful)
What should people understand about computers? (Score:2)
The nature of the Internet (Score:2)
Don't make up shit you don't know (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Don't make up shit you don't know (Score:4, Funny)
Of course not. According to one of my ex-GF's, that box is properly referred to as the "modem."
Re:Don't make up shit you don't know (Score:3, Funny)
My Internet connection once went down, and since I NAT to the rest of the house nobody else could get online either.
So my ex tried to fix it.
End result: I came in, turned on my PC, watched the Win2K bootup screen scroll by and then wondered why the flipping fuck I had Netware on my PC, 2 different firewalls enabled and TCP/IP disabled for the LAN card.
Took about 5 minutes to fix but I never let her anywhere near my PC with admin privileges again.
Re:Don't make up shit you don't know (Score:3, Informative)
It may be convenient, but calling it a CPU is incorrect. How are they going to know what you are talking about when you refer to the actual CPU?
Maybe defining important terms as you progress through the book is the way to go. That way, you eliminate ambiguity and you build a vocabulary.
"The Computer" seems to be the global term for kb/mouse/monitor/apps/cpu
Keyboards, mice and monitors have nothing to do with the computer. Define
OCR (Score:2)
They do not understand that if they want to edit the document they need to OCR the document.
Then there are the Attorney's that want me to call up Microsoft and get them to fix everything before they sue them.
Or how about the people that try to open documents or programs from inside other applications.
A Plea for Task-Based Organisation (Score:5, Insightful)
- writing a letter: how a program starts, how different document formats work, how saving a file puts it onto the hard disc, how printing works
- looking something up on Google: how the internet works (good luck with that one!), how web sites work, how computers talk to each other over the internet, how firewalls work
Explain that computer attacks are not personal (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Explain that computer attacks are not personal (Score:3, Funny)
See how complicated this discussion becomes....
Starting from a flawed premise (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Starting from a flawed premise (Score:4, Insightful)
A lot of it has to do with the patronizing or downright condescending attitude that many geeks assume while trying to explain things. Believe me -- knowing this shit (or thinking you know it) does not make you Master Of The Universe, nor does it even imply that you are particularly intelligent. When you're having trouble communicating concepts to a non-savvy person, this usually indicates that You Fail It, not that they do.
Using vs. Understanding (Score:5, Insightful)
These two books are completely different and you should know which one you're writing, and not mix things up.
I personally would love a book that explains the basics of how RAM, TCP/IP, USB ports etc. work -- written in a way that somebody with no engineering background can grasp. But from the tone of your question I think what you're really leaning towards writing is a book that lets brand new computer users bypass the clueless stage. For this, you'd want to explain the differences between OSX, Windows, and Linux, and give users a good way to choose. You'd want to acquaint them with the main sorts of applications that exist -- word processors, spread sheets, browsers, etc. Then you'd explain a bit about each, like what a word processor is great at doing (things like on-the-fly spellcheck), and what it sucks at doing (book quality layout.)
Basically, you want to teach people the fundamentals of using each type of application, and keep them from using a screwdriver as a hammer (using Microsoft Word to typeset a book, for instance.)
You'd also want to write about the various peripherals you can install, like wireless cards, optical mice, and high-quality video and sound cards.
And finally, you'd want to make the writing engaging enough that people would actually read your book cover to cover. That's the biggest trick of all, and really, the only hard trick.
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD... (Score:3, Insightful)
I can not even count the number of times I have said "your computer does not have enough memory for this" and gotten the reply "but it says I have 15 jig-a-bytes free, isn't that a lot?"
I think this problem is 99.9% the industry's fault for choosing the word "memory" to refer to something stored short-term (should have come up with some new word like 'zoigle'), but anyways...
My Granny (Score:5, Funny)
When I was 8, I got a computer for Christmas. My granny said to me, "Ask it who the Prime Minister is!"
Re:My Granny (Score:5, Funny)
Hmmmmn,
If only there was some way to connect your computer to the rest of the world's computers and somehow query them to find out who the prime minister is.
Hey! Thats a great idea - I'm off to patent it
Oblig. Simpsons (Score:5, Funny)
Ned: Did I hear my name? My ears are burning!
Homer: [whispering to mouse] That's a good start, now finish the job!
Ned: Oh, you're busy. Catch you later, compu-tator!
Homer: Oh, five thousand dollars for a computer and it can't even handle a simple assignment!
Zen and the art of microcode (Score:5, Funny)
Page 2: program to produce page 2 text
Page N: md5 sums of pages 2-N used to check for possible reading comprehension problems
Epilogue: "Now grasshopper is one with computer."
Now that's a book that will let them know what computers are all about.
Screw the Book; Produce a DVD Video (Score:5, Insightful)
So I say forget doing a book at all (at least initially), and instead consider screenwriting a DVD video. People will be far more willing to give it a quick spin than check out a book. Also, it's much cheaper to duplicate, and you can distribute it over the Internet. (Technically, the same is also true of "books" in PDF format, but books are traditionally not thought of in that manner.)
If the DVD is a success, than you can go into more depth in a follow-on book (or just leave a PDF file on the DVD).
Schwab
Re:Screw the Book; Produce a DVD Video (Score:3)
The audience you're trying to reach couldn't be bothered to RTFM that came free with their machine;
I haven't seen a manual shipped with a PC in a long time. Even "Getting Started with Windows" (complete with license certificate glued on the front) has gone, in favour of a license sticker on the machine itself.
what makes you think they're going to buy another book? There have been no shortage of books on the subject, and people are still underinformed.
Why do they want to be informed? Few people are aware o
It's been written... Different Problem. (Score:3, Informative)
The real problem isn't that the information you'd like to convey to these laypeople has never been put into an easily readable, accessible format. The problem is that most people really don't give a damn about how things work.
Remember that most people never bother to even learn the full capabilities of the devices they come into every day contact with, like cell phones. Do you think that people who can't program their VCRs are really interested in the science involved in storing and retrieving data from a magnetic tape?
I'm not trying to harsh your mellow, but you need to face the facts. Most people are content to believe that the underlying technologies that make their lives so easy are simply "magical," and leave it at that.
"How Computers Work" (Score:4, Informative)
Understanding is over-rated (Score:5, Insightful)
There are levels of underestanding required for the use of anything. If you break it down, malicious software exists because some jerks out there are exploiting the fact that they understanding software deficiencies better than Microsoft or you. People don't *need* to understand 100% how things work. They could, but they don't care to. Over time as people age, they accumulate a list of things they "know" and their curiosity and desire to learn decreases (the more you know, the less you care to learn).
People care more about increasing the comfort level in their lives than in increasing the understanding of the world. Ignorance is bliss, and the more you learn, the more aware you become of your ignorance (ie, you are really learning just how much you don't understand).
Most people see computers as a tool, albeit an annoying, complicated, troublesome one. In fact, from the people I have talked to, if they could get away with NOT using computers in their daily lives, they would. They'd rather spend their time with family, or recreationally, etc. As a tool, computers are rather flawed - the mere fact that they break down so easily is proof of that. Instead of thinking of ways to make it easier to learn the tool, why don't we just fix the tool itself? Make it simpler, easier to use, more reliable. What you sacrifice in perfect flexibility, you gain in adoption. The best consumer technology is transparent technology.
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Re:Understanding is over-rated (Score:3, Interesting)
I don't think you need to understand those things, really. As long as you know you can't drive your car off a cliff, or go to the store without taking off your e-brake, or not to d
Nothing (Score:5, Funny)
Some Ideas (Score:3, Informative)
I'd thought for a while about trying to help put together an introductory Internet course, and had made some decisions I think are important. One of my teachers (thankfully, not in the CS department) once started talking about how your computer broadcasts its IP address to every computer on the Internet, and that's why you get so much spam. People will parrot back information they get, without really understanding what's going on. So lay a good framework. Explain IP addresses, but on a basic level. (Don't get into configuring a broadcast address or how BGP4 works.) The analogy of a phone number works decently, and can also be used to explain netblocks. Then introduce DNS.
I'd mention bits and bytes, and megabytes and gigabits, but on a more basic level. But if you explain it well, in layman's terms, I think you can have the average person understanding why their 60 GB hard drive holds less.
I'd devote a reasonable portion of the book to understanding how things work. Why is spam such a problem? How do people get spam? What can they do about spam? How do they protect against viruses? (You can mention various anti-virus programs, but also encourage basic (seemingly not-so) common sense. Don't open random attachments. Don't download random programs.) Explain how some common viruses have spread: especially those that could be prevented by user training. ("Hey, check out this
Cover wireless, and mention its security implications, as well as the potential for interference. (My 2.4 GHz cordless phone and my 802.11g router don't always play nicely.)
Current events are important, too, IMHO. What is "P2P," and why is this R-I-A-A making such a big deal about it? (Try not to be biased!) What's Linux? How is a Mac different from a PC?
Overall, I think it's important to cover a lot of topics, even some that the average user might not deal with everyday, as it helps to lay a good framework for actually understanding how things work. The most important thing, though, is to use a really clear, non-technical tone. In my experience, this is a "gift" some people have, and some don't, and it makes the difference between whether you just confuse people further, or whether it all makes sense when they hear you talk.
forest for the trees (Score:5, Insightful)
The job of the computer is to make your job/task easier - it is not the other way around.
Yes, there is a time and place to learn a particular interface for a specialized job, to configure a certain program to get a special behavior or download some patch or driver to get some random hardware to work. But these things should be the exception and not the rule. I think there's way too much software that forces the user to bend to its design/shortcomings, rather than the other way around.
Futhermore, I'm rather saddened by the fact that nowadays I notice most people are afraid of their computers. They don't explore or try something new just to "see what happens" - because everyone has been bitten hard by some bug or some unexpected behavior and lost valuable time and data. So they have a very simple and rigid routine, one they know "just works", even if it's completely convoluted and non-sensical. I'm sure most people here have observed the same thing.
Tell them not to fear computers (Score:4, Insightful)
Bottom line is most people only use computers for a narrow, limited purpose. The rest start investigating on their own.
ipods, cellphones, TiVO, etc (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Don't have to (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Don't have to (Score:3, Insightful)
I disagree. They need to know that it's _not_ an appliance like a washing machine or a toaster. A computer is a tool.
An appliance like a washing machine or a toaster are different for a couple of very important reasons:
-- an appliance doesn't normally contain personal/financial information that can be used maliciously by others
-- an appliance normally can't be used maliciously towards others
People are f