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What Breakfast Gets You Going? 365

Crash McBang asks: "Apparently many are foregoing the morning coffee for something sweeter, according to a recent article in RedOrbit. 'There is nothing better than the feel of Coke on the back of your throat in the morning,' said McKinsey, a morning pop drinker since the 1970s, savoring the cold, stinging sensation that coffee drinkers just don't get. What gets you going after waking up?"
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What Breakfast Gets You Going?

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  • Ahh! (Score:5, Funny)

    by suso ( 153703 ) * on Friday January 19, 2007 @08:47AM (#17679152) Homepage Journal
    You are torturing me! I have to fast this morning until 11am because I have this health screening thing at work. And now a story on Slashdot about breakfast. Of all the days, I swear. I guess though that on any given day someone reading Slashdot has to fast for some reason.

    To answer your question though, I usually have some sort of pastry, peanut butter and jelly sandwich or donuts. On the weekends when I have more time, I make eggs and bacon or waffles for my family. And milk of course. I'm not a coffee drinker. Coffee ice cream though, now that gets me going. But not in the mornings.
  • Fruit! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ilovegeorgebush ( 923173 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @08:49AM (#17679170) Homepage
    Cereal, a nice cup of Tea (yes, i'm British) and some fruit gets me going. Apparently, Apples are more effective at waking you up than coffee!
    • Re:Fruit! (Score:5, Interesting)

      by xtracto ( 837672 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @09:05AM (#17679310) Journal
      I love honey nut cereal mixed with shredded wheat (it is the ONLY way I can stand eating wheat cereals without feeling that I am eating a cardboard box...) . I add some sliced bananas.

      Of course I also get a cup of coffee and waffles (difficult to get in UK, the "normal" egg waffles with honey and butter and no the potato waffles they eat here...).

      Something interesting is that in UK people often have something really light for breakfast (as parent said), unlike in Mexico where the breakfast my mom used to give us where two scrambled eggs with ham and some mashed refried beans as side order. Or the typical Moyetes (a french like bread sliced in half with refried beans and grated with cheese... oooh god).

      Of course you could ask what about the [in]famous English breakfast (bacon, "yummy-looking" black pudding, eggs, some kind of horrible tomatoes, sausage, beans and if u are vegy, mushrooms) but as far as I have seen, it is not until 11:00 (lunch hour) that they take these. My gf used to work in a restaurant where they served "all day english breakfast". It is very "funny" to watch people ask for an english breakfast at 10:00 pm...

      BTW, did you know that Irish drink more coffee than tea? well, that is something an Irish man told me maybe it is bollocks =oP
      • by joshetc ( 955226 )
        Frosted mini wheats become extremely barable and border-line good with chocolate milk instead of regular milk.
      • by splutty ( 43475 )
        BTW, did you know that Irish drink more coffee than tea? well, that is something an Irish man told me maybe it is bollocks =oP

        I was always convinced Irish Breakfast consisted of a pint of Guiness... Hmmm.. I might be wrong though :)
    • by hal2814 ( 725639 )
      I take my fruit in liquid form. 32 oz of OJ no pulp and a breakfast bar (usually Special K or Cinnamon Toast Crunch). And I'm not sure if OJ is more effective at waking you up than coffee since I usually drink about a pint of coffee once I get to the office.
    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      A cup or two of green tea, a sandwich and some fruit. It's healthy!
  • by clickclickdrone ( 964164 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @08:49AM (#17679172)
    I haven't had breakfast on a working day for about 15 years. However, weekends it's a big steamy bowl of porridge with honey, sultanas and cinnamon.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Thansal ( 999464 )
      For me I have a muffin for breakfast.

      however again, weekends (or anytime I have the time), breakfast turns into some thing with eggs.

      either fried eggs over biscuits and a side of meat or a quick fry up of everything I have around (Meat, onions, potatoes, bread, peppers, whatevever is around) in lots of butter, then pour eggs over that to bind it all together, top with cheese and ketchup and I am set for the morning.

      Or there are always pancakes and/or waffles. Waffles are also great topped with eggs/meat/po
  • by antifoidulus ( 807088 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @08:50AM (#17679174) Homepage Journal
    "a tongue in the ass. There is no alarm clock on that one, you are up, you are shaking, you are in a karate stance, the day has begun"
  • Raw coffee beans

    Seriously though, i dont have a breakfast most of the time. I sometimes grab a coffee on the way to Uni but not regularly.
  • Frappe []. Lots of frappe.
  • A pot of coffee. No nancy-boy additions, no milk, no sugar, no nothin' but strong back coffee ground fresh in my kitchen this morning.

    On weekdays I'll have a danish, too. On weekends, I'll make at least one real breakfast centered around pancakes or waffles.
  • A mega-mug of crushed ice filled with Diet Coke, and a doughnut, or that extra special cold pizza stashed behind something in the frig. Hello World!
  • A nice cold Mountain Dew Code Red gets me up.
  • by eric76 ( 679787 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @08:59AM (#17679256)
    In the winter, I eat a grapefruit almost every morning sometime between 4 am and 6 am.
  • Honey Buns are good for breakfast on the go (I have 8 O'clock classes, so no time for a real breakfast at the cafe).
  • HOT POCKETS!!! []

    Sorry about the WMV.
  • by NetDanzr ( 619387 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @09:03AM (#17679286)
    Coffee and a smoke. Then some more coffee.
    • by value_added ( 719364 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @09:48AM (#17679814)
      Coffee and a smoke. Then some more coffee.

      Indeed. I'd go so far as to say it's common world round.

      On the other hand, the question is a bit dumb. What works for breakfast has to be taken in context with what happened before breakfast and what routinely happens after breakfast.

      If you're accustomed to eating 3 full meals a day, your body will expect (demand, actually), a full breakfast when you wake up. If you do the cigarette and coffee routine (with or without the traditional croissant, beignet, etc., and/or a shot of something to help you start your day), a full breakfast will make you feel nauseous for most of the day. And that's irrespective of whether you work the land or sit in a chair and stare at a computer screen.

      Personally, I think the Italians, etc. have it right. Eat a light breakfast and set aside 2-3 hours for a large lunch. Note that beverages manufactured from corn-syrup aren't part of the equation. Asking a food question from those who haven't been taught or discovered what it is for themselves is entertaining at best.
      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by TheLink ( 130905 )

        How about the Japanese?

        Whatever the Japanese are doing, they have long life expectancies despite 50% of the males smoking (was 80% in the 80s!), working long hours and drinking lots of beer... The females live even longer.

        Given most developed countries are worried about aging populations, perhaps they shouldn't be so upset if people insist on smoking and killing themselves earlier.

        Maybe we should thank them for their sacrifice for the greater good and all that.
  • kashi golean crunch cereal with fresh blueberries (no milk)
    strong black tea
  • Mornings (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Venner ( 59051 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @09:05AM (#17679312)
    Most days it's a bowl of cereal (typically Raisin Bran or Frosted Shredded Wheat), a banana, and a nice big glass or two of tea, typically green. In the wintertime, it's hot oatmeal or cream of wheat.
    If I have a lot to do that day, or an exam, or whatnot, I'll get up a bit earlier and make a couple of eggs, whole grain toast with peanut butter, yogurt, etc. Brain food.

    Breakfast has never been optional for me. Not only do I not like to be hungry, if I haven't had something of substance to eat within a couple of hours of waking up, I typically get a horrible splitting headache that lasts all day and which doesn't respond to analgesics. (No, it's not the caffeine. I can go days without tea - I just won't be happy about it.)
  • Hair... (Score:3, Funny)

    by thegrassyknowl ( 762218 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @09:06AM (#17679326)
    ...of the dog that bit you. In my case that's usually Coopers Pale or Sambucca. If the day at work previously was really shit then it could even be tequila.

    *NOTE* I don't really drink that much every night. There are just some times at particular points in the project when you say fsck it and piss on of a worknight with mates to forget about it all.
  • Breakfast? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by physicsnick ( 1031656 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @09:06AM (#17679328)
    My breakfast is an extra fifteen minutes of sleep.
    • Kids (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Dr. Hok ( 702268 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @09:36AM (#17679684)
      My breakfast is an extra fifteen minutes of sleep.

      This revives a faint memory of the time when I didn't have kids yet. Oh, how I miss those days, when nobody used to jump full speed right into my groins in the middle of the sweetest REM phase...

      Anyway: Kids DO get you going in the morning, whether you're ready or not. And forget about those extra 15 minutes of sleep.

  • by rednip ( 186217 ) * on Friday January 19, 2007 @09:08AM (#17679342) Journal
    bacon, eggs, and sometimes sausage. Usually washed down with some lightly or un-sweetened iced tea. Lately, I've been stopping by the local quickiemart for a 24oz eye opener, and a banana for a mid-morning snack. if I'm pressed for time I get a sausage, egg, and cheese bagel from Wawa (Convenience store/deli).
    • Yes! Yes yes yes.

      Bacon, eggs, mushrooms, a couple of slices of toast, maybe some beans...

      There's nothing wrong with a big breakfast!
  • Tea or malt coffee (I'm trying to reduce my caffeine intake, plus there's free coffee at work)
    Orange juice
    Toast with jam, or cereal
  • Normally, it is some form of cereal. Usually the higher in sugar the better. For instance, this morning was Cap'N Crunch with Crunch Berries. But, I also have Honey Nut Cheerios, Honey Nut Crunch'n Oats (two different versions) or whatever cereal is on sale when I go shopping (usually have a coupon too).

    However, on weekends I usually make myself a two-egg cheese omelette or on rare occasions, 6-8 slices of french toast.

    I always have a glass of juice (grapefruit) and a slice of toast, pop tart or some cak
  • Sugar addiction (Score:4, Informative)

    by Idaho ( 12907 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @09:12AM (#17679382)
    The reason why it works even if you drink soft drinks without caffeine, is because the sugar will give you a quick energy boost.

    It seems that having soft drinks for breakfast is quite unhealthy, lowers your attention span, etc.

    A Finnish study of 404 10-11 year-olds showed that withdrawal, anxiousness, depression, delinquency and aggression were twice as frequent in those consuming 30 per cent more sucrose in the form of ice cream, sugary snacks and soft drinks.
    Over the longer term, yo-yoing blood sugar levels are also associated with low mood, behavioural problems, lower IQ and poor academic performance.

    Here's the source [] (but I'm sure there are many other sources that say the same thing).
  • by nwbvt ( 768631 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @09:12AM (#17679384)

    Please tell me you are all just drug addicts and you are talking about cocaine, not Coca-Cola. That stuff is disgusting in the morning. And yes, I have tried it.

    And people wonder why Americans are so overweight. We have started drinking sugary soda in the mornings too now. Are you too lazy to brew a quick cup of coffee and get your caffeine rush there?

    • by dknight ( 202308 ) * <damen@ k n i g h t> on Friday January 19, 2007 @09:42AM (#17679750) Homepage Journal
      boy, you sure got my number there
      been drinking nothing but Coke morning, noon, and night for as long as I can remember, and I'm an absolute WHALE at 115lbs!

      whooo boy, us Americans are just ready to burst.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      >Are you too lazy to brew a quick cup
      Whilst I'm not shy when it comes to dissin' our cousins over the pond, I have to say, I seriously doubt it's being lazy, more a lack of time.
    • by JoeWalsh ( 32530 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @10:15AM (#17680172)
      Long ago, the Coca-Cola management decided that their main competitor wasn't Pepsi or RC or even lemonade. They realized their main competitor was water! So they set out to market the product as a substitute for water. And it's worked very well.

      Of course, these days both Coke and Pepsi own bottled water operations - which are much more profitable on a per unit basis than the soda pop they also sell.

      Still, it's interesting how a huge company can change a society when it sets its collective, corporate mind to the task.
    • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

      by jcorno ( 889560 )
      Coke has fewer calories per ounce than orange juice, apple juice, or milk. Granted, it has none of the health benefits of any of those, but it's probably not making you fatter. Plus, the caffeine-induced twitching is good to burn off a few more.
    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by skyhausmann ( 700720 )
      "We have started drinking sugary soda in the mornings too now." Shut up. "Are you too lazy to brew a quick cup of coffee and get your caffeine rush there?" Shut up.
  • With some butter tarts. And a coffee crisp. And maybe some Smarties. And a pepperoni stick. And an O Henry. And a pizza pop. God I'm hungry. I've been in the US for too long. =(

    On the subject of drinks though, I am a pop drinker as well. It depends on what's going on that day what I drink though. I will have a coke most days. But if I really need to be awake and alert, I will start the day off with a Bawls.
  • Porrigde (Score:3, Informative)

    by Bromskloss ( 750445 ) <auxiliary.addres ... y@ g m a i> on Friday January 19, 2007 @09:12AM (#17679396)
    It keeps you from getting hungry to fast again.

    1 dl of oatmeal
    2 dl of water
    a couple of pinches of salt

    Mix and put in micro, full power, for two minutes. Serve with jam and milk. Smooth to your tired body and soul.
    • With water? You heathen! Porridge should be made with milk. Gak!
      Every now and then I do indulge in the full fry-up though:
      2 Eggs
      3 bacon
      black pudding
      fried bread
      (tomatoes for the wife's fry-up)
      3 chipolata sausages
      2 slices of bread & butter
      2 cups of tea

      Eat, grab Sunday paper and relaxxx....
  • I get up at 330 am for a 5 am shift. Breakfast is a PBJ sandwich with Orange Juice. Doctor prescribed 100 mg Modafinil (Provigil) to help me through the early morning sleepies. Not a stimulant like caffiene, this drug just keeps you awake.
  • I do one of two things for a morning boost.

    The first is a GNC protein shake. Mixed with cold water and blended it makes an awesome breakfast. 300 calories; all good. And it keeps me full till lunch.

    If I had a shitty night, I eat a boiled egg and shoot a Mountain Dew Code Red. Very bad for me, but the sugar and caffeine get me going and the egg keeps my stomach from eating itself before lunch.

    Also, one of the best things to get me going is some push-ups and stretching in the morning. I can knock out 30
  • I drink two glasses of ice cold water. one before I get wash and dressed and the other just before I set off to walk to work (a 15 minute brisk walk). I then have some fruit at work. If I eat before I have been awake for more than 2 hours I tend to feel bloated and sick.
  • When I was a teenager and had not yet acquired a taste for coffee, my father wisely observed that when I got to college, I'd learn to like it. Which was just the push I needed to dig in my heels and resist. Of course he was right about my collegiate need for caffeine, but the cafeteria's soft drink dispensers were functional at every meal, so I started waking up with diet cola. A pattern was set.

    My last year of college I spent a semester in Scotland, and was introduced to an alternative: tea. Althoug
  • I'm from the U.S., so that colors my perception of what's reasonable for breakfast, but breakfast is a must for me. Most important meal of the day, y'know. :-)

    To begin, here are a few randome points from a guy who would happily eat "breakfast" three times a day. One, yes, I like a diet Coke in the morning. Two, I think pancakes and syrup are too sweet and heavy, so a big "pancake breakfast" is not for me. A couple on the side are fine; I just can't imagine an entire breakfast composed of the things. An
    • . And finally, three, I've seen on a few recent travel shows something referred to as a "traditional English breakfast", a monstrous affair with multiple starches and sausages, eggs, some tomato, and more. Is that real or something they just serve to tourists? Either way, it looks mighty good to me.

      It is indeed real, and I'm quite fond of them myself (well, I'm British so I guess I should be!).

      I typically go for the following; bacon, fried/scrambled eggs, sausages, hash browns, mushrooms, grilled/frie
  • by skroz ( 7870 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @09:20AM (#17679508) Homepage
    Warning: Only to be used sparingly. Excessive usage WILL kill you.

    • Two strips bacon, fried in butter (not margarine, sissy boy)
    • Two strips sausage, fried in bacon grease and butter from above
    • 4 eggs over-easy, cooked in bacon grease, sausage fat, and butter from above. Yolks should be slightly runny.
    • Two waffles, buttered. Syrup to be applied in large quantities (see below)
    • Hash browns or grits
    • a biscuit, buttered
    • 1 cup coffee
    • 1 large glass orange juice

    The excess melted butter, syrup, and egg yolks should be allowed to mingle. The resulting soupy mess should be eaten mixed with the hash browns. The biscuit can be used to mop up any remaining liquid.

    This should not be eaten on a regular basis. I use it before a long day of hard outdoor work, like felling trees, hauling timber, pouring concrete, etc.. Anything where I expect to burn a huge number of calories.

    • And served with a side of defibrillators?
      /me writes this recipe down.
    • +1 Delicious
  • It's pretty distressing how many people are saying they don't eat something for breakfast.

    I didn't, for years. Now I make the effort and it's well worth it. Counterintuively, it's good for keeping your weight down.

    I'm on porridge at the moment, since it's winter. Fruit or toast in the summer.
    • by tourvil ( 103765 )
      Counterintuively, it's good for keeping your weight down.

      I've noticed this. I've gotten used to eating a small granola bar every morning first thing when I get to work. Now I find if I stop eating those and just skip breakfast entirely I put on a few pounds after a week or two. My guess is that it kicks your metabolism up early.
  • Monster Lo-Carb

    Although the new Rockstar Zero Carb "with twice as much caffeine" in the blue can has been growing on me this week.
  • The older and more health-conscious I get, the simpler my meals get. For breakfast most days, it's oatmeal with raisins and a side of tea. On weekends, we usually have a "hearty breakfast" of scrambled eggs or pancakes, along with espresso of some kind.

    What's more interesting to me is what I eat throughout the day. I pack my own lunch, which really turns into a constant source of snacks while I code. Raisins and almonds, vegetables, fruit, and other nutritious stuff.

    Folks might think my diet odd,
  • ...bathe myself in the soothing green light, and I'm good to go!
  • I drink a bottle of room-temperature water at the beginning of the morning. After that it's pretty much continuous coffee until I leave for work. Before my doctor told me to lay off the coffee, I was drinking one 10-cup carafe before 8AM every morning. It was usually the light-roast breakfast blend which, contrary to many people's beliefs, seems to have more kick than the darker roast I drink towards the afternoon. Now it's just the water and one or two cups of drip brew with creamer and no sugar.

    This said,
  • Flying through Chicago to Des Plaines(90/94: Kennedy) while listening to Techno and Drum N Bass.

    That's enough to get my heart pumping.
  • There is a wonderful pub in north london (and I apologise that I cannot rememebr its name right now) that our company used to go to on the morning of major launches for a company breakfast.

    Liver, bacon, sausages, black pudding, fried bread, mushrooms, tomatoes, fried eggs, beans, toast and most importantly a pint of Guinness - That keeps you going til lunch time!!!
  • Some times, like in the summer, coffee is just too hot and/or overused. However, you don't want a Red Bull/Rockstar/Tab/etc. You just want caffeene in a soda, but Coke and Pepsi aren't it.

    Times like these, I reach for a can of Jolt. No added junk like ginseng and taurine. No bland cans that make you wonder if they're all equal. You just reach for a battery of Jolt, drink the entire thing over the day's work.

    Too bad they're not doing Orange Jolt anymore...
  • I'd like to say this to Ms. McKinsey: you sure got gypped on your fifteen minutes of fame.
  • Vegan sausage, whole wheat bagel, and tea. Except on Sundays, then it's a chocolate chocolate chip muffin (not a typo, it's chocolate, and it has chocolate chips) and a mocha.
  • Provided the ingredients are good, the simplest breakfasts are best. I like a couple of large succulent bacon sandwiches (grilled back bacon and fresh granary or wholemeal bread, generously buttered) and a mug or two of strong Ceylon tea sweetened with a teaspoon of honey to wash 'em down. Fried egg sandwiches are good too (fresh free range eggs fried in hot butter spooned over the yolks until they're cooked just right and then sprinkled with a little ground black pepper and salt).
  • And of course a big bowl of granola, the crunching of which will help to drown out the latest depressing Iraq news or Dubya quote on the NPR!
  • i've asked my wife to set the alarm clock to blowjob instead of alarm. for some reason she's hasn't figured it out yet... all kidding asided, last year we started the day with a 30 minute run on the beach, followed with a simple breakfast of fruit, egg, and bread(sometimes substituting the bread for oatmeal).
  • 4 aspirin
    3 vitamin C
    3 cups of coffee
  • Well, anything I can get served to me in the Hot Chicks Room []
  • by jbarr ( 2233 )
    Unlike my wife, when I wake up in the morning, I'm typically hungry, so actually eating breakfast is a no-brainer to me. It's what I eat that can put me into a rut. I find that over time, I open the fridge and pull out the same old thing, and I find myself getting bored. I have to make an effort to mix things up occasionally. Fortunately, variety gets "forced" because on Tuesday mornings, I get together with some guys from Church at a local breakfast place. It at least gives me something different from the
  • Option 1: Toast with cream cheese and green olives.

    Option 2: Toast with peanut butter

    Option 3: Buttered toast and soy sausage (Yes, I'm a vegetarian)

    Option 4: Cheese grits (no, I'm not from the south, but I was raised by a southerner)

    Any one of these, plus a cup of tea, black with sugar, and I'm good to go.

    I'm not so interested in the instant sugar rush. I think it's killing us. More important to me is to get a small shot of protein and a small shot of carbs to keep me going through to about mid

  • Half a grapefruit and black coffee.

    There's Chemicals in the grapefruit that cause the caffeine to work better.
  • Though you may find yourself dependent on your morning ritual. Often times the ritual is held over your head so your lady can perform various acts of blackmail in order to secure funds for shopping. To qualify for sex in the morning, you must have ended the previous day spooning in bed with your girl.

    All in all, I have yet to find a better way to start my day. Hell I could think of few better ways to start anything at all.

  • 10 ug of Synthroid
    10 mg Lipitor
    250 mg Caffeine (via coffee)

    About an hour later I usually have some toast w/chunky PB made on 3-carb bread from a little bakery off 183 & Braker here in Austin. (Yea... yea... I know... But my TC is like 114 on Lipitor... My doc and I are still arguing as to why I'm even on it...)

  • Couple of pints of beer, sets you up in the way no other breakfast can. You fall asleep again for another 4 hours.
  • Gracie Diet (Score:3, Informative)

    by j_kenpo ( 571930 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @10:01AM (#17679990)
    My breakfast consists of an alternating diet of

    1: Take 4 -5 apples, core them, and run them through a juicer. Take 3-4 bananas. Mix the whole thing in a blender. Drink.
    2: Take 3-4 Bananas, put in blender, add milk until they are covered. Blend and drink.
    3: Juice 4-5 oranges (no pulp). Drink
    4: Take half a pound of grapes. Juice and drink.

    Works great, have plenty of energy for the day, and I've lost like 50 pounds (with exercise of course) doing it.
  • The IBM Cafeteria in Boulder, Colorado has the best breakfast food I've ever had. Eggs, hash browns and a scoop of spicy green chili wrapped in a burrito wrapper and topped with a generous helping of tomatoes and more green chili. If you really want to live it up get a scoop of corned beef hash with that. Thinking of that got me out of bed ever morning for the more than 5 years I was working there.
  • ...or well, at least sometime before noon, is waking up without the alarm going off. That with 98% probability says I've turned off the alarm and overslept, unless I have a freak awakening in the middle of the night.
  • Nothing. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Lord Bitman ( 95493 ) on Friday January 19, 2007 @10:52AM (#17680638) Homepage
    I've read all the comments, and only 2 so far said they didnt eat, without mentioning drinking something or some other ritual.

    I would hereby like to specifically mention:
    I wake up, I go to work.
    I don't eat.
    I don't drink coffee.
    I don't drink orange juice.
    I don't drink...
    I don't chug 2 liters of water. (wtf?)
    I don't get a blowjob.
    I don't I don't take a bunch of [xxinsertstimulantherexx].

    What the fuck is wrong with you people?
  • Actually, that was my great-grandmother's usual breakfast. It always used to freak me out when I saw her eating it, but I guess it isn't much different from eating dry cereal and washing it down with soda. She was born in the 1890s and out-lived all of my other great-grandparents, so maybe it's good for you. I always thought that habit was unique to her, but a few years ago I saw a review of a play wherein an elderly character did the same thing. Google doesn't seem to turn up anything, however.

    Totally off-subject, but she had a son who lost a total of 7 fingers in multiple cotton gin accidents. Dispite this handicap, he could still roll his own cigarettes, which was truly amazing to my five-year-old eyes. IIRC, he died of lung cancer about the same time as her; perhaps he should have been eating the same breakfast.

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