

The Laptop as an Instrument? 99
An anonymous reader wonders: "As music production tools, computers are everywhere from recording and mixing to publishing. What about computers as the sole musical instrument? DJing or just playing mp3s aside, we have improvisers and orchestras that treat a laptop as a full-flavored instrument. What's the most interesting laptop-only live act you have seen/heard?"
There's only one answer. (Score:4, Funny)
A well-played Unreal Tournament match.
"HAT TRICK!"
[Gun fire]
"5... 4... 3... 2... 1!"
[Gun fire; Explosions; Crazy]
"FIRST BLOOD!"
"MUILTI-KILL..MEGA-KILL!"
And so on.
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Doug
Live session with Buzz (Score:2)
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I was trying to imagine new media pundit Jeff Jarvis covering electronic music, and it gave me cognitive dissonance.
This (Score:1)
Labtop as an instrument? (Score:1)
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in the late nineties, my high school had a battle of the bands sorta thing. one guy hooked up his laptop to the speakers and just hit play on a techno song he wrote. that i had a problem with. it's not live, like all the bands where, it's just playing a recording.
but the more the person has to do in real-time that will affect the sound (changing notes, putting in beats, etc), the more it blurs the line between a recording and a live performance. at some point there's not going to be any log
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I've performed on both laptop and turntables, and the visual effect is what makes all the difference.
I once did a DJ set on a laptop, and hardly anyone realized I was even even doing anything related to the music coming out of the speakers.
When people see someone on turntables, they automatically make the connection. They need the visual cue to go with the music. Even though I could DJ with just my laptop, and it would be a lot easier than lugging turntables and extra hardware, I stick with turntables
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It turned into a product for a while. The old atari-st 'typeset' manual i
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I feel inclined to port Pro MIDI Player to this platform I'm currently hacking around on
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You may want to use my GPL'd MIDI Library in it: http://opensource.jdkoftinoff.com/jdks/trac/browse r/trunk/libjdkmidi [jdkoftinoff.com]
--jeffk++
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XP (Score:2, Funny)
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Interesting question but I have do increase... (Score:2)
I am really interesting in this kind of stuff. I know there is a specific Linux distro for media but I do not know if the open source software available is mature enough for to perform live performances (i.e. not prone to crash in the middle of the show).
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Seriously. Pd is like audio assembly language. Well, I take that back - that would be CSound. But it's remarkably close.
I think that the stuff you can do with Pd, Max, Reaktor and their ilk is pretty fantastic. I also know that I will never, ever sit down and put in the time to learn it. I love experimenting with sounds, but at the end of the day I also want to be able to play something without first building a whole instrument.
To the GP: definitely take parent's
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Where sequencing is concerned I've h
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Not only an instrument (Score:1)
There are two aspects of using computers as tools: one is about *people working* on a computer (we can call it "Windows-style use"), the other is about a *computer doing work* ("Unix").
I have been always fascinated by the possib
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Maybe, but you can't possible learn to play all the violins in the orchestra at the same time!
Two points: computer as a much more sophisticated "instrument" than any violin, so you potentially have a lot more freedom of expression; and, you do not have to interact with it in real time - which might be even impossible considering what you might want to achieve.
Finally, I suspect that watching AI do all the work may not be as exciting.
seen? huh! (Score:2)
jerking off in bed with a laptop watching porno
frets on fire! (Score:1)
Mashups! (Score:2, Interesting)
You And Your Laptop Are Not A Live Act! (Score:1)
"You and your laptop are not a live act!"
Sure, they are useful tools, but standing behind a laptop looks really stupid on stage. Dance. Sing. Play some other instrument as well. Anything. Just don't stand behind you laptop looking like an idiot. If that's all your music is, press it to CD and give it to a DJ to play. That can be good too... but Live Music requires doing something Live that is visible to the audience!
End Industrial Karaoke now!
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That makes it somewhat borderline... but I'm more talking about how you shouldn't be this idiocy [dnalounge.com] (note the lack of a power cable on the keyboard ). That idiot couldn't even tap his foot in time with his own music, and just hit play on the laptop and faked it the whole time.
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And neither is a tuba player, who just sits there blowing out of his mouth and moving his fingers like all the other brass players in the orchestra. They barely even move their feet!!
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and if that is all the "concert" is, the it's be... rather stupid.
Most of the time you have a tuba, though, it's with a much larger band. The ensemble makes it worthwhile.
The problem here is laptops tend to bring out the "I'll just hit play in the sequencer" attitude in people. I've seen too many "shows" where they just stood there and pretended to poke at the laptop, and/or just messed with levels or something. This is a DJ act. Which is fine, but don't pretend it's a "Live Show" at the same level as h
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Sure, they are useful tools, but standing behind a laptop looks really stupid on stage. Dance. Sing. Play some other instrument as well. Anything. Just don't stand behind you laptop looking like an idiot. If that's all your music is, press it to CD and give it to a DJ to play. That can be good too... but Live Music requires doing something Live that is visible to the audience!
I agree whole heartedly. I am an electronic musician but I hate standing on stage bobbing my head infront of a laptop. I AT LEAST bring my Oxygen8 to shows so I can AT LEAST play lead melodies and tweak knobs live. I've played the piano for years and years so that helps as well.
I've seen a lot of electronic acts and the ones that impressed me the most were the least pre programmed sets. Infected Mushroom, a trance act, is a very live act. They jam hard on their nordleads and junos. Squarepusher has a
The laptop is a musician's greatest friend (Score:2, Informative)
Laptop artists (Score:2, Informative)
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Ableton has been allowing musicians to use their laptops as instruments for years now. If you google around, you'll find whole bands of 4 or 5 people on stage jamming with Live.
It's a great product, there's a free demo, so check it out.
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Jack Schitt (Score:1)
Tim Exile (Score:2, Informative)
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I've actually had a play on the system he built (well, I had a play about 3-4 years ago, I dare say he's changed it a lot since then. A constant work in progress as far as I could tell...). It's a lot of fun.
See timexile.com [timexile.com] for more info and (I expect) tunes / vids etc. Oh, there's also a mass technical interview / Q&A with him here [dogsonacid.com].
Right, I'm getting back to work before I read the usual surprisingly stone-age slas
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Don't suppose you've got any errr... neato Reaktor 5 ensembles you're interested in sharing (yeah I've played with the one that's already out there).
Speaking of non-traditional music making, been appreciating some righteous work has been done years back in the BBC radiophonic workshop.
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Anyway, the reason he deserves special mention in this article (I was too rushed to say this earlier), is because he is firmly improvisational. If you understand this -- and grasp/literally see how the movements and combinations of the sliders under his control correspond, real-time, to the changes in the resulting output -- I think you see he makes a m
Animusic (Score:2)
Laptop only music act = boring (Score:2)
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I've seen some cool virtual instruments that are played with a laptop touchpad, but I doubt I could woo an audience with my elite ~5 cm finger movements.
A midi keyboard would be the traditional choice, but using, say, a wiimote or a DDR pad could work out. And of course, all hail the mighty Power Glove. This thing [youtube.com] should provide for some decent
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The laptop as an instrument... (Score:3, Funny)
Supporting certain sales laptops seems like that anyway!
Meat Beat Manifesto (Score:1)
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Laptop for live instrument (Score:3, Interesting)
The main problem with laptops is most come with less than stellar sound devices. Some come with 24-bit spdif outs but still suffer from noticeable latency which makes live performance difficult at best. There are a good number of external sound devices available for laptops out now but I have yet to see one that has made me confident enough to move away from my road case rack. Plus it looks cool to show up at a gig with a road case full of esoteric lights and whistles.
Now if someone would just write a VST interpreter that will run in Gentoo I will be pooping with joy.
My keyboard rig:
Old ass Kawai K-4 as controller (Per note aftertouch)
P4 3GHz with Delta 1010 for sound device
Tascam TMD-1000 mixer for external effects
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Princeton Sound Lab (Score:1)
oh come on tons of bands do this - KRAFTWERK?! (Score:2, Informative)
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We're talking here about live shows that are exclusively done with laptops and nothing else.
Hooverphonic's laptop guitar (Score:2)
There are many results on Google, but almost all of them in Dutch apparently. Here's the only English result I found: http://www.newsenginepr.com/documents/intel.xml [newsenginepr.com] (see section 'Hooverphonic on tour with one of a kind Intel Guitar'). Ah, Intel has a page about it too, but withou
Some vids of laptop 'battles' (Score:1)
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MIDI controllers! (Score:2)
Using the laptop itself to play the music live? Well, if I want to actually *play*, I would at least get an external MIDI controller (knobs and keyboards) as it is much easier to handle than a qwerty keyboard - most decent music apps can accept midi inputs and playing notes via a device made for performing is a bit more intuitive than trying to set your keyboard up to do it (IMNSHO, that is, i imagine *some* people are perhaps completely comfor
Morton Subotnick (Score:2)
Morton Subotnick [mortonsubotnick.com] played on an electronic music concert at the university I attend. They literally wheeled out a laptop (some variety of Mac) on a cart, and he sat down at the laptop as though he was sitting at a piano. I don't recall what he played, but he is considered a pioneer in electronic music.
Sonic Boom's "Speak & Spell" Tour (Score:2)
From an article [datamath.org] about it:
C.O.M.A. (Score:1)
Autechre (Score:1)
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Definitly not worth the price of admission (ok, one of the concerts was free... that was worth the price of addmission).
I have seen some live footage of them in the early 90s with hardware, and it is way more exciting and perfomance oriented.
Bands that use laptops. (Score:1)
Todd Rundgren (Score:2)
Commodore SX-64! (Score:2)
It's not laptop-only, but a local Denver band, Mr. Pacman [wikipedia.org], uses a Commodore SX-64 on stage. It's a portable version of the Commodore 64 (a "laptop", for sufficiently large values of "lap", I suppose.) Talk about old-school! :)
ZX Spectrum Orchestra (Score:1)
http://www.myspace.com/zxspectrumorchestra [myspace.com]
"ZX Spectrum Orchestra have been locked away in the lab writing code. They use no midi, no samplers, in fact, no instruments other than Sinclair hardware and peripheral devices. For instance, vocals on tracks are supplied by the Currah Speech. An early speech synthesizer built for the ZX Spectrum, it explores the found poetry of basic keyboard commands."
you not come across much? theres loads of it! (Score:1)
Kid Beyond (Score:2)
On a related subject... (Score:2)
Coldcut (Score:1)
Well said (Score:1)
There's plenty of clips out there on YouTube of their performances
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Aphex Twin (Score:2)
Does that count?
Luke Vibert, kid606, jeremy ellis, i could go on.. (Score:1)
If you know the original tracks that he's dropping, you will be flabbergasted. He fucks up, too
the videos kinda suck, but that's the difference between live and youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qVosBt3L8A [youtube.com]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUL5VuQBz74 [youtube.com]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRYdnXIr_VI [youtube.com]
kid606 uses controllers, but it's closer to the "instrument" that you're talking about, but not using normal
Nickel Creek covering Britney Spears (Score:2)