
Ask Slashdot: Trustworthy Proxy Services? 164
gusoline writes "Since I'm now living in Brazil (originally from the U.S.), I'm looking for a reliable, trustworthy proxy service I can use to both access services I've used for a long time (Pandora, Netflix, etc.) and services I want to try out (Spotify). Since I'm not looking for illegal downloads or to hide what I'm doing, I'm less concerned about anonymity than I am about region restrictions, reliability, latency, and security of passwords and traffic through their network. I'm OK paying for services that deliver what I want (including the Proxy service itself). Any suggestions from the Slashdot crowd?"
your-freedom.net (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:1)
AWS... (Score:1)
Setup an AWS EC2 and Squid, lock it down and enjoy your own private proxy.
Re: (Score:2)
Some services block EC2 IP addresses. A cheap VPS might be better.
By the way, I'd use sshutle [github.com] instead of Squid.
Re: (Score:1)
I've tried this before. It worked for pandora, but not hulu.
Profit (Score:5, Interesting)
1) Buy cheap US VPS
2) Set it up yourself so you know exactly what is being logged
3) Profit.
Re:Profit (Score:4, Informative)
That's what I was going to say. This can be had for as little as $20/month, and you can do anything you want with it.
Note however that the asshats at Hulu, Pandora, etc have been using a lot of dirty tricks to figure out of you're using a proxy. Currently Hulu does not work, even with a proxy. You will probably need to run a VPN. I think they're using some flash trickery to make a secondary verification that you're not using a proxy. It's a lot more than just the IP address of the originating request. There are a few HOWTO's out there that describe setting up proxies for Hulu that are a year or two old. They no longer work. (I've tried)
So, to sum up, simply buying a proxy service (from anyone) will likely not work with many services. You're better off with a VPS over which you can run a VPN. Of course, you need the technical ability to set that up...
Re:Profit (Score:5, Informative)
Go to http://www.lowendbox.com/ [lowendbox.com] 20 dollars is a rip-off. For just a proxy you should be able to get away with bugger all RAM and storage. Transfer speed might be a bit slow though 10Mbps wont cut it for streaming.
Re: (Score:1)
Holy shit, thanks for that link!
Re: (Score:2)
Just should point out the site is primarily for low cost web hosting.
Though most VPS hosts probably don't care.
Re: (Score:2)
Seconded.
Fishing on Lowendbox.com, I have found 2 VPS for $1 each per month, both work as proxies. One is in the U.K., so I can use it to watch BBC.
The other VPS is from BuffaloVPS, they run about $6.99 per month for 1gig/30gig/1tb 64bit
Re: (Score:3)
uhh you don't need a VPS to watch BBC. ModifyHeaders extension in Firefox works just fine.
Re: (Score:2)
I thought the blocking was IP-based..?
Re: (Score:2)
Exactly - use X-Forwarded-For in ModifyHeaders to change the IP address - makes it look like you're using a proxy. Doesn't work with Hulu but does work with mtvservices and BBC for me.
Re: (Score:2)
I though it was an HD service.
You have to account for double bandwidth though, I think. You have to revive and send it. Yes it would fine for 300k or what ever.
Re: (Score:2)
I streamed Netflix on a 3mbps connection for a couple of years. I couldn't do much else with the connection while streaming, but the video was just fine.
Re: (Score:1)
Re: (Score:1)
there is an inverter in the circuit that isn't on the diagram...
Re: (Score:1)
Re: (Score:2)
Google will find you many vpn providers in the US (or anywhere else for that matter).
I've seen them as low as 6 bucks (some with data caps), and for around $18 you get unlimited speed and unlimited data. (purevpn).
Re: (Score:3)
Using google as a mostly blind search doesn't equal the advice you'd get from /. What you've seen and what's recommended here (even with the grain of salt) are different things.
I'm using IAPS (intl-alliance.com). It works ok. Facebook knows it's a proxy and sometimes won't refresh when other things do. $105/year. I'm not sure if it's worth it, but it's the choice I made. Saudi laws are very strict but it was stopping me from Rolling Stone magazine (reading Matt Taibbi's blog/columns) that got me off my
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:1)
Re: (Score:2)
Are you sure? from my understanding of current laws, accessing US only services from outside the US, may in fact break several laws. (I'm not saying these laws are right, only that the laws are that messed up!)
Re: (Score:2)
Unless they are Brazilian laws no one is going to extradite over this, though your VPS might kick you off and keep your money. And if you don't provide full details of of your Brazilian address then they wont bother to track you down. I guess if you say you are from the US it's fraud but is about as trivial fraud as you get.
Trust yourself (Score:3)
Get yourself a server in the US and install your own proxy... Won't cost you more than $100/month.
Re: (Score:2)
That's exactly what I did: goscomb technologies (http://www.goscomb.net/hosting/vps-vds) vm in london for about $20/mo and squid, voila! bbc. Mostly as proof of concept as there are better ways to get content that through web page s..tr..ea..m...i.ng, but regional restrictions are idiotic: "let's limit our market, why should we want more customers?" If you only want access to US available content and don't need ipv6 (the real reason I went to goscomb), rackspace is cheaper (http://www.rackspace.com/cloud
Re: (Score:2)
It's not always the content providers. Up here in Canada, broadcasters have to contend with the government agengy CRTC, which has a bunch of bullshit mandates about Canadian content percentage for networks (including radio stations) providing content in Canada. It may have been useful in the days of OTA, but it doesn't make any sense now.
Re: (Score:2)
Do people not even bother to think nowadays or something.
a) You seriously think hulu serves you content from a couple of central dataservers? Hahaha. They serve you data that's cached on servers inside your ISP (via akamai and others).
The alternative is prohibitive costs or worse. So international access requires such infrastructure to have been put into place (which == $$$).
b) On that point, hulu makes money from advertising. Advertisers are very specific about who they want to show ads for and hard to get
Re: (Score:2)
The reason is those people build a fan base and market for dvds and collateral material, and all it costs them is a little bandwidth, which is dirt cheap at that level. If they don't have servers in the countries that are restrictive, there's little they can do about it - they have no standing, and if they want to "protect" their citizens, they can do what China does and put up firewalls. Which can be gotten around the same way.
Re: (Score:2)
$100 a month????
get a free tier from Amazon Web Services. I've run a minecraft server on it for a while. Even their low end pay tier is only about $20 a month.
Re: (Score:2)
The submitter isn't looking for a proxy to hide his identity or online activity. He wants to use a proxy to get around IP address blocks for services restricted by geographic location.
Re: (Score:2)
Hulu may care very much about your dollar. It just may not have a way to get at your dollar that won't cost it even more dollars. I don't see how they are required to take a bath just so you can watch their shows or how their unwillingness to do that justifies piracy.
I don't care either. The risk and effort involved in pirating all that Hulu provides probably outweighs the cost of just setting up a VPS somewhere and having a legitimate Hulu account. Regardless of his reasons, the submitter didn't specifical
Re: (Score:1)
Regardless of his reasons, the submitter didn't specifically stated he wasn't interested in illegal downloads.
Ummm, yes he did.
Since I'm not looking for illegal downloads or to hide what I'm doing, I'm less concerned about anonymity than I am about region restrictions, reliability, latency, and security of passwords and traffic through their network.
Re: (Score:2)
Yeah, the "didn't" wasn't supposed to be there.
Re: (Score:2)
hulu, pandora, netflix, amazon mp3 download all block HSS IP's
Incorporate (Score:4, Insightful)
Welcome to the 21st century, where corporations are allowed to globalize -- but not people!
AWS (Score:4, Insightful)
Re: (Score:1)
Re: (Score:3)
IP over SSH is very inefficient, though. OpenVPN or sshuttle would probably give you better throughput while keeping your traffic encrypted.
Re: (Score:2)
Crossing an ocean doesn't affect throughput, just latency.
I agree with OpenVPN being harder to use, but sshuttle (which is based on SSH but it's not TCP/IP over it) isn't:
WiTopia (Score:2)
http://www.witopia.net/ [witopia.net]
Pick your country and protocol. Works with the BBC, Hulu, Vimeo, Pandora, Netflix, probably just about everything else. Of course, you have to pick a US proxy for Hulu, a British proxy for the BBC, etc.
Google (Score:1)
Good luck. (Score:1)
So you might want to have a dry run before making any long term commitments.
Anonymizer (Score:5, Informative)
Anonymizer Universal is an IPSEC/L2TP VPN, support for Windows, Mac OS X and iOS (we don't support Android, but it works. We don't supply instructions because Android is a moving target).
Total Net Shield is SSH tunneling+Apache proxy. Supports anything with an SSH client.
Take your pick. In either case we don't log traffic.
Traffic egress is from the U.S. and your IP address changes every day.
Re: (Score:3)
Traffic egress is from the U.S. and your IP address changes every day.
Have you thought about partnering with some foreign peers? I'd love to pay one bill each month and have proxies in half a dozen countries.
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
So when are you going to kick out Linux services? I've been waiting since I swapped OSes.
Re: (Score:2)
Everything I said about Android above applies hundredfold for Linux. First of all the VPN requires kernel support. What if yours doesn't include it? Secondly, should we support GNOME? KDE? XFCE? Blackbox? FVWM? WindowMaker? Or maybe command line only? Sysv-init? Sysv-rc? Upstart?
I personally would love to support Linux, but it's just not practical. The possibilities are endless. But you can extract the necessary information from the .mobileconfig and follow some instructions found online to set it up.
Re: (Score:2)
That article is over 10 years old. It says that the CIA are thinking of using anonymity software "to protect the anonymity of its employees as they go about their jobs." The article doesn't even specifically mention Anonymizer.
You wouldn't happen to work for a competitor, would you?
Re: (Score:2)
And iOS is not a moving target?
No, it isn't. iOS provides us a consistent interface. We use the built in IPSEC/L2TP client and configure it with a .mobileconfig.
At this time, it is not compatible with the iPad 2.
I have no idea why that's in the FAQ. It works perfectly with any iOS device, including iPad 2.
I know what you meant, though - it just takes more work to support the Android platform, and Anonymizer does not feel, at this time, that there is sufficient return of investment to justify supporting the Android platform.
Still, it would be nice if you did.
It does take more work. Each Android device is different and the IPSEC/L2TP client isn't always [included/exposed?]. Manufacturers like to put their own UI on top of Android. And the Kindle Fire? We can't keep up. That being said, it does work, but you have to do it yourself. You can ex
Re: (Score:2)
Can you confirm hulu access please?
I wish it were easy to say. Hulu kind of hates us. Well, really hates us. Part of the reason we change IP addresses every day is to try to make sure all sites are accessible. Hulu blocks us a lot, and their blocking pattern adapts as well. We don't try to actively ensure access to Hulu, but we do hope that IP changing will have that as a side effect.
Re: (Score:2)
Officially supporting Linux would consume far more resources than revenue it would generate. It's math. I'm sorry you feel that way, but we are running a business, not a charity.
I personally would love to be able to support Linux. Distrowatch will sell you CD's for over 4000 versions of Linux. Are you kidding me? We provide services to consumers. The goal is to make this something that's approachable for your grandma. If you're a programmer or system administrator, then great. The necessary info is in the .
Linode.com (Score:3, Informative)
Before I setup my linode I was using overplay.net who were okay, but they were often quite slow and I did have issues with blacklisting on certain sites and every so often the server I was using would go down.
Re: (Score:2)
Second this - I've been a long time linode customer, although I don't use it for VPNs I have used it as a squid proxy tunneled thru a SSH connection.
Re: (Score:2)
Third this. Been a happy Linode customer for years. Their smallest system runs my website and VPN just fine. I can even back up to it -after simply attaching some S3 storage.
overplay.net (Score:3)
I'm a happy customer of overplay.net. For US$ 9.95 you get access to VPN servers in 48 countries, with multiple servers in many cases.
I can't say how secure my data is with them but it works reasonably well with OpenVPN and mostly fast as well.
Re: (Score:1)
vyprvpn (Score:1)
http://www.giganews.com/vyprvpn/ I use this when I want to, and they have VPN POPs in europe, southeast asia, and the us. Works great.
Re: (Score:1)
Another vote for vyprvpn...BUT (Score:2)
I suggest looking here instead https://www.goldenfrog.com/vyprvpn [goldenfrog.com]
Unless you want to buy a giganews subscription just to get VPN access.
X-Forwarded-For (Score:1)
Does setting this header with a browser plugin no longer work to access these sites?
Re: (Score:2)
Does setting this header with a browser plugin no longer work to access these sites?
It never did.
Theoretical standards-compliant programmers might be imagined to implement such a thing, but real-world programmers rely on the server environment's report of the client's IP address. (In PHP that's $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'])
Tunnel service (Score:2)
You could also just (Score:1)
Give up the american shit and be happy you're out of this hell hole of a country. Other Brazilians don't need the shit, so why do you? Shit, I'll trade places with you and you can have all of my shit and my netflix and Pandora One subscription.
Tunnel Bear (Score:1)
IronKey Proxy (Score:1)
StrongVPN (Score:2)
I've had good luck with StrongVPN [strongvpn.com]. I connect to it with OpenVPN from a gateway running pfSense, which allows me to select the route to use (VPN or direct) based on either the internal and external IPs. At around $10/month, it's quite cost-effective.
Re: (Score:2)
Hey, I work in Brasil, Colombia, Argentina (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Yeah this one's probably not a great choice...
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/09/25/0415213/HideMyAsscom-Doesnt-Hide-Logs-From-the-FBI [slashdot.org]
Re: (Score:2)
Then again, puto didn't claim it was.
Furthermore, the story submitter specifically stated:
( emphasis mine )
But yes, for those reading along and who hid under a rock the other day, it's a good thing to keep in mind.
Note that most proxies/VPNs collect at least basic IP information for leg
StrongVPN (Score:1)
VpnPop.com (Score:2)
unblock-us.com (Score:2)
http://unblock-us.com/ [unblock-us.com]
If I remember correctly, you have to use their DNSs, they will route you to their proxy servers when you query netflix or any other.
I live in China, and solved this a while ago (Score:3)
Re: (Score:1)
I live in Europe and use StrongVPN too. It works exactly as advertised.
Re: (Score:2)
Honestly, I believe you... (Score:1)
Since I'm not looking for illegal downloads or to hide what I'm doing...
Let me guess...you think the Littlest Mermaid's cleavage is pornographic and you just want this information for a friend. (Snicker)
Whatbox.ca (Score:1)
I recommend getting a Whatbox [whatbox.ca]. Their most expensive plan costs $18 per month and you're allowed to do pretty much anything you want with it. They even have instructions in their wiki on how to set it up as a proxy.
Comparative test of Internet Anonymizers (Score:1)
Quoting: We have been publishing and updating a comparative test of VPN services in German since 2009 which points out which VPN services log their users‘ IP addresses and which do not. Due to the current interest I am providing an English version of the short summary of the results (last updated: 02/06/2011).
http://www.daten-speicherung.de/index.php/comparative-test-of-internet-anonymizers/ [daten-speicherung.de]
GetCocoon.com (Score:1)
But what you plan to do is illegal (Score:2)
You are trying to circumvent copyright protections that enforce region restrictions
use at own risk (Score:2)
Ironically, proxies were recently used to attack my desktop and one of my programs got crashed. Someone retaliating against me for a friend of mine spamming them with my server address without my permission.
Use all the proxies you want but since they're ripe targets for being abused don't be surprised if you wind up getting blocked.
Open proxies are a nightmare for security conscious people, precisely for the same reason they are attractive both to freedom fighting patriots and asshole hackers alike.
If you
get a dedicated server (Score:1)
Netflix (Score:2)
This is not what you asked for specifically, but FYI Netflix works just fine in Brazil, as of last month. I use my PS3 with a cable internet/tv provider.
a VPS in Chile due to law, routing & language (Score:2)
I travel a lot and can identify with this problem. Sometimes a page is not available and there has been times where I'm scratching my head trying to figure out why on earth someone would block it. Different countries have different goals so we can always get around the problem by trying different routes but I didn't want the hassle of having to switch providers. I'd imagine too it would be useful for anyone wanting to provide such a service where to locate it.
So the useful info here is, which countries hav
What's wrong with living in Brazil? (Score:1)
Re: (Score:2)
You don't want to use a specialized service provider. If service providers like Netflix decide to go searching for and blocking proxies, services like unblock-us.com are going to be easy to find - a handful of IP addresses and tons of traffic. Your lone IP address coming from your VPS with a normal amount of traffic is going to be a lot harder - if not impossible - to find and block.
Best case scenario, going with a specialized provider is an arms race in which you'll be paying both sides to arm themselves -
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
I'd be interested in what a lawyer has to say on it. Seems to me he will probably be violating terms of service, but would it really be illegal?
Re: (Score:3)
It's this kind of thinking that will make movie studios bankrupt. Otherwise law abiding people are copying stuff because IP laws have been terribly abused. If movie copyrights were around 10 years and penalties for copying were in line with petty shoplifting, a lot of us would be turning violators in. Is it really constructive at this point to pick on people who are trying to be honest by using an authorized service when they could just hit Pirate Bay?
Re: (Score:2)
Torrenting usually involves redistribution, though.
Re: (Score:2)
Wrong. It's official: Netflix has landed in Brazil.
http://www.netflix.com.br/ [netflix.com.br]
The PS3 + hdtv combination works just fine, thank you.
Next time you comment or give out advice, don't talk out of your ass. Instead, check your facts.
Re: (Score:2)
not really... it's not actually a people vs corporations thing, it's a rich vs the rest thing. Big corporations just happen to fit in the "rich" category, where as most people don't. incorporating yourself doesn't magically give you enough money to get around the rules.