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Ask Slashdot: Good Linux Desktop Environment For Hi-Def/Retina Displays? 234

Volanin writes "I have been using Linux for the last 15 years both at home and at work (mostly GNOME and now Unity). Recently, I gave in to temptation and bought myself a Macbook retina 15". As you can read around, Linux still has no good support for this hardware, so I am running it inside a virtual machine. Running in scaled 1440x900 makes the Linux fonts look absolutely terrible, and running in true 2880x1800 makes them beautiful, but every UI element becomes so tiny, it's unworkable. Is there a desktop environment that handles resolution independence better? Linux has had support for SVG for a long time, but GNOME/Unity seems adamant in defining small icon sizes and UI elements without the possibility to resize them."
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Ask Slashdot: Good Linux Desktop Environment For Hi-Def/Retina Displays?

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  • KDE (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 30, 2012 @04:56PM (#42147251)

    I've never tried it in really high resolutions, but everything I've found online says KDE supports resolution independence.
    And it's just so much better and usable in so many ways than those other environments you've been using.

  • Re:KDE (Score:5, Interesting)

    by pecosdave ( 536896 ) on Friday November 30, 2012 @05:01PM (#42147331) Homepage Journal

    Have to throw in my support here. Been using KDE since 1.x, I've tried other desktops but can't seem to use one of those without missing my KDE, and so much so that programs compiled to bring up GTK widgets (browsers) actively piss me off. The QT version of the file browser and so many other things are just more versatile and elegant.

  • xmonad (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Robert Bowles ( 2733 ) on Friday November 30, 2012 @05:02PM (#42147341)

    I'm currently using xmonad as a desktop environment (almost exclusively), as it plays quite nicely on VHRDs (very high resolution displays). At most, you'll have to tweak the borderWidth elements.

    Optionally, if you're looking for a bit more eye candy, try twm and its derivatives. Most the the UI elements scale dynamically. (too flashy for my tastes however)

  • Re:KDE (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Andy Prough ( 2730467 ) on Friday November 30, 2012 @05:05PM (#42147397)
    Agreed - KDE. And be sure to get some good fonts and set the precisely. Go with the Droid font package - those are very high quality.
  • Enlightenment (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 30, 2012 @05:06PM (#42147419)

    You can choose the magnification ratio in the initial configuration wizzard. This affects everything, not just the fonts. It's the real deal.

  • Re:No one cares (Score:4, Interesting)

    by _xeno_ ( 155264 ) on Friday November 30, 2012 @05:27PM (#42147695) Homepage Journal

    What glaring problem? The problem they're addressing is screen DPI, which is basically a non-problem, and not screen size, which is something I'd love to see get larger and is what you really mean when you say "resolution has stagnated."

    Right now I'm stuck with a 1920x1200 monitor, and I'm glad to have that because no one makes them any more. If I were to "upgrade," I'd have to replace it with a 1920x1080 monitor. What I'd like to have is an even larger monitor, like the really nice but still way too expensive 2560x1600 monitors. (Still over $1000.)

    What Apple did instead was up the pixel density, which is nice, I guess, but not really useful. Those high-DPI displays are great for a cell phone or other devices you hold in your hand, but not really great for a laptop.

    Really, I'd rather see a higher push for the larger sized monitors so I get more useable room out of the display rather than see the DPI pushed up. All "retinal" gives you is the same UI, just with four times the pixels. It may look "shiny" but it sure isn't any more useful.

  • by SuperKendall ( 25149 ) on Friday November 30, 2012 @05:27PM (#42147705)

    I think a much fairer statement would be "no one who develops Linux software gives a rats ass about Apple proprietary shit."

    Fairer still would be to say "Apple Haters would self-mutilate if it put Apple in a bad light".

    immediately run out and spend $3000 to validate my $3000 purchase.

    You may not be aware, but Slashdot is just chock full of technical users who can use the web.

    When they do so they would find the MacBook Pro Retina to be $1699, not your absurdly inflated figure.

    They also, being technical users, would be asking themselves "could not a developer wanting to test resolution independence simply buy a high DPI desktop monitor and test that way also?"

    Why yes. Yes they could. Too bad that you, a non-technical Apple Hater Troll, will be unable to even comprehend that question or think of similar cases before you post in the future and beclown yourself yet again.

    You are kind of like the court jester who comes in and spills grape juice on your shirt on purpose. Every. Single. Day. Did you not notice the people stopped laughing long ago? And that the looks you get know are all ones of pity and horror?

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 30, 2012 @05:31PM (#42147745)

      --dpi dpi
                                This also sets the reported physical size values of the screen,
                                it uses the specified DPI value to compute an appropriate physi
                                cal size using whatever pixel size will be set.

    Or maybe :
    --scale xxy
                                Changes the dimensions of the output picture. Values superior to
                                1 will lead to a compressed screen (screen dimension bigger than
                                the dimension of the output mode), and values below 1 leads to a
                                zoom in on the output. This option is actually a shortcut ver
                                sion of the --transform option.

  • by steevithak ( 1180195 ) on Friday November 30, 2012 @05:41PM (#42147873) Homepage
    Didn't the GNOME desktop switch to scalable SVG rendering way back in 2004 or so (starting from Raph Levien's work on Gill back in 1999)? There were all kinds of articles back then about how awesome SVG was and how all GNU/Linux desktops would be using it soon. I thought Nautilus was designed with SVG support in mind? What happened to all that work and when did GNOME switch back to pre-historic bitmapped stuff? That's kind of sad.
  • by HarrySquatter ( 1698416 ) on Friday November 30, 2012 @06:00PM (#42148197)

    Oh, right, Apple released a 13" model. I forgot about that. Too bad to spec that 13" model up so that it's comparable to a $1000 Windows Ultrabook, you'll be paying $2500.

    Bullshit. The 13.3" Asus ZenBook UX31A-DH51 is $1050 on Newegg and has half the RAM, a slower i5 processor as the 13" MacBook Pro.

Overload -- core meltdown sequence initiated.