Ask Slashdot: Interviewing Your Boss? 219
First time accepted submitter Uzuri writes "I'm soon going to have the experience of interviewing an individual to be my direct supervisor. I have in mind several things to ask already, especially since I also have the strange position of working as a technical person in a non-technical office and want to be able to be certain that the interviewee understands exactly what that means without coming off as hostile or condescending. What sort of questions would you ask/have you asked the person who was to be your boss? What sort of tells would you look for? What's out of bounds?"
Who's the boss? (Score:3, Insightful)
Use Yourself for an Example (Score:5, Insightful)
you are crazy (Score:4, Insightful)
How do you evaluate performance? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:It depends... (Score:5, Insightful)
You don't want that.
Sure, sounds like it'd be fun, sleeping with the boss and all. At least until you break up.
Re:Ask him (Score:5, Insightful)
Oh - one more thing: (Score:5, Insightful)
Reject any management candidate who has job-hopping in their history. If they spent less than 2 years or so in their last three positions and the companies they worked for are still around, odds are good there's a reason behind all that shuffling, and it indicates that said manager never really got to know his or her team that well.
Re:you are crazy (Score:5, Insightful)
Don't hire your boss, find a different job! The idea that someone is qualified to hire their own superior is so asinine that it could only come out of a corporate red-tape nightmare so awful it is doomed to an epic fail. If the company had any idea about how to manage whatsoever then they would either have someone higher-up the ladder do the hiring or move someone qualified up from within. Run! Run now! Run fast!
In converse, I'd say if you aren't qualified to interview a potential future manager, you have some serious deficiencies in life skills. This practice is against the status-quo of corporate red tape practices. Also in direct contradiction to your statement, I'd say that always having people higher up the ladder do the interviewing is one of the causes of hiring bad managers, and having direct reports participate in the process is part of a good solution the problem.
Re:Use Yourself for an Example (Score:4, Insightful)
A similar strategy I use a lot of times is ask them a question they don't know the answer to. The purpose of the questions isn't to make them look bad, but to gauge their reaction. For example in some interviews I've asked "Can you define and explain the purpose of ASLR and DEP?" for a technical interview. The answer I'm looking for in this case is "I don't know, but I'll find out." But I've gotten people who got flustered, confused, and worst totally lied.
Its an interesting strategy I think to find someone with an open mind who can be honest with themselves. You also want to be prepared to provide the answer, and let them know "I didn't expect you to know that, its something you would learn or blah blah blah." Either way the reaction to tough questions is the most valuable tool I have as interviewer I think.
Re:Who's the boss? (Score:5, Insightful)
I interviewed my previous boss... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Ask him (Score:5, Insightful)
Let's think about this, if you're good enough to hire your own boss, you're good enough to be that guy, well betas excluded.
I've turned the opportunity down once (to become the boss), and I felt like I had a slew of good reasons, but I'll always wonder what if till it comes up again anyways. But... if somebody asked me to hire my own boss, I'd recommend myself and if not, I'd find another place to work. Under no circumstance do I want to hire then train a person who's going to be making more than me and telling me what to do, that has "not ends well" written all over it. Most management types are POS anyways.
If they're threatened, you don't want them (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Ask him (Score:5, Insightful)
In answer to your question about "why not promote yourself", allow me to quote your own post
Managers should manage, coders should write code
Some people are comfortable and enjoy managing, others are comfortable and enjoy clacking on a computer.... myself being very much in the latter category. I absolutely can't stand the thought of managing a team and having to deal with interpersonal people problems and office politics, whereas instead I could just do what I love instead.
For some people, the ultimate goal of your work at a location isn't "make as much money as humanly possible", but instead "Enjoy what you do". There literally was an opportunity for me to apply for a management position. I didn't even slightly think about putting in my resume for it.
Why would I want to do a job where I'm going to be miserable? If I can currently feed, clothe, and shelter myself quite comfortably, what incentive do I have to be miserable for almost all of my waking hours for the next 3 or 4 decades, with the only payoff being able to feed, clothe, and shelter myself slightly fancier?
Sorry, I'd rather not spend the best years of my life deliberately making myself miserable.
Re:Ask him (Score:5, Insightful)
I hear that bullshit about "honestly" and "frankly" all the time and most everyone believes it. I say the same words as filler speech to invoke attention at the beginning of a statement or to add a bit of dramatization. It certainly doesn't mean I'm lying. Honestly, when I'm lying, I won't say that shit because of the connotation it has on it. I'll also look you straight in the eyes.
Re:Ask him (Score:5, Insightful)
Body language is very important.
Aaaggh! This is what I hate so about interviewing. All my education, training, and experience means less than a highly subjective and unreliable measure such as body language. In those kinds of interviews, it's annoying to discover you've been wasting your time talking with someone who doesn't care what you're talking about because they don't know jack about technology. All they've been doing is judging your mannerisms, seeing how old you look, and listening for any hints about your family situation that they're not supposed to consider when making a hiring decision.
You rely on body language, and you will get stuck with the bullshit artists. There are more bullshit artists than there are competent engineers. Think you can tell the different between these two kinds of people? If you don't know the field, you haven't got a chance. Take people who are weak on math and hazy about the odds and rules of poker but who think they're great at reading body language, and see how far they get.
Re:Ask him (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Ask him (Score:4, Insightful)
There Are Only Three True Job Interview Questions
1. Can you do the job?
2. Will you love the job?
3. Can we tolerate working with you?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgebradt/2011/04/27/top-executive-recruiters-agree-there-are-only-three-key-job-interview-questions/
Re:I interviewed my previous boss... (Score:4, Insightful)
Proper dress? Seriously? That's first on your list?
We are not talking about what he might wear to the office day-to-day. It's what he's wearing when he knows he's on display. Doesn't have to be a suit, but it shouldn't be excessively out-of-place. If so, he probably lacks the ability to notice other things, like when his "unique style" is actually scaring people. Had this happen once, a hardcore ex-military type "motivated" my team. I, being ex-military too, recognized it as a motivation speech, but about half my peers thought he was furious.
Casual fucking cussing is fine by me.
It's fine by me too, but it's not fine during an interview. Nor is it fine when meeting the bride and groom at a wedding, nor a funeral, and not in a dozen or more other situations. Knowing when to let one's hair down is just as important as the ability to do so. If he cusses at an interview, he lacks the ability to know how it will be received. Do you really want a lifelong pal that you've known for fifteen minutes? Ditch him.
The only real question is the 'Anger management' one. Which you will never get to during an interview anyhow.
You would be surprised. Perhaps you haven't been in enough interviews. Had one where the driving/parking behaviours of "someone else" obviously was still on his mind (and lips). Had a few that talked over your questions, and after having the questions repeated in completion got irritated that we were asking the same stuff. Some people can manage themselves, some can't.
Also note: Sarcasm. You do want a boss with a sense of humor and low tolerance for incompetence (assuming you are competent). Otherwise the god damn care bear will have you surrounded by air thieves.
A sense of humor manifests itself in many ways. Effective sarcasm requires shared experiences with the audience. Personally I don't think we've moved in the same circles enough to even know what you mean by that last sentence. A person getting interviewed is likely in the same boat.