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Ask Slashdot: Why Do Most Tablet Specs Suck? 231

Slashdot reader Qbertino describes himself as a "happy tablet user," moving from an old HTC Flyer to his Yoga 2. But he notes that most other tablets "have laughable battery times," and "I've yet to find a tablet that does not give me storage or memory problems in some way or other, lasts for a day or two in power and doesn't feel chintzy and like it won't stand a month of regular everyday use and carrying around..." He asks why none of the manufacturers seem willing to offer more than one gigabyte of RAM -- and why they're so stingy with storage. "Where is the rugged 16GB RAM / 1TB Storage / 20-hour battery tablet?"

So leave your educated opinions in the comments. What are your thoughts on the current tablet market? And are they the ultimate all-purpose "convergence" device that Apple and Ubuntu seem to think they are?
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Ask Slashdot: Why Do Most Tablet Specs Suck?

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  • people want cheap (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 11, 2016 @12:35PM (#52295185)

    apparently these days cheap is all that matters - quality doesn't

    • apparently these days cheap is all that matters - quality doesn't

      I'm super satisfied with my new iPad Air 2. Good performance, good battery life, good storage, good build quality.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      I don't think it's about costs, it's about demand. Having a tablet with such specs would be like cramming a 5 liter V8 into a moped. It can be done, but there likely aren't many people who'd want an unstable and unbalanced vehicle.

    • by Toonol ( 1057698 )
      I don't think it's the price. I think it the fault of shallow fashion. The push for the thinnest, most minimalist tablet possible, outweighs nearly everything else. If they doubled the thickness of an iPad, how much bigger battery could they fit? 4x? How much more durable would it be?

      My tablet is big, clunky, but has both a micro and a full size USB port, along with the HDMI, microphone, power, and sd card, and I love it.
      • by Dahamma ( 304068 )

        You have somewhat of a point, but size is not the same thing as fashion.

        Sure, the iPad Air is "sexy", but it's also amazingly compact and lightweight - I can take it on short trips instead of my laptop without carrying a backpack. And I can hold it up to read for extended periods without making my arms tired.

        I just don't see the need for a tablet having most of the specs of my laptop (minus decent graphics, I guess) without the usability of a real keyboard, mouse, Ethernet, etc.

    • >apparently these days cheap is all that matters - quality doesn't

      Oh shut up. First of all, the tablet the OP wants exists [microsoftstore.com], go ahead and pay three grand for it if you want. The battery won't last two days of usage because there's no battery technology that is dense enough to allow that without making the tablet enormous and/or super slow.

      The claim itself is of course extremely stupid, but I'm not going to spend time on it as I'm getting a feeling that this was a very masterful troll that got modded up so

  • and why they're so stingy with storage.

    Because the business model of a number of tablet makers is giving you little on-device storage so that you start using their cloud storage service, which gives them an opportunity to sell you an additional service or sell your data to advertisers, duh.

    • I don't think it's that nefarious. I think it's because tablets are treated as toys and therefore priced as such.

  • by krisbrowne42 ( 549049 ) on Saturday June 11, 2016 @12:45PM (#52295235)
    Most pundits decry Apple for not making the iPad a convergence device. The tablet condenses nearly every hard problem in making computers - big, high-res displays take more memory and compute to drive. Memory takes battery to drive. Battery weighs a lot. Nobody wants to carry that weight. Every tablet is a compromise - no matter what MS tries to tell you.
    • Tablets have a nice niche as a media consumption device, just don't try to use them as a convergence device. I hope the convergence bubble eventually pops as devices like Surface Pro are kinda crappy if used as notebooks, and or the most part hardly qualify or are usable as a tablet. I personally don't understand the unhealthy interest people have in those things. I'd take a Lenovo Yoga any time over Surface.

  • My Recommendation... (Score:5, Informative)

    by EmeraldBot ( 3513925 ) on Saturday June 11, 2016 @12:48PM (#52295259)
    Try checking out the Memopad 572c [asus.com]. 2 GB RAM, a fantastic screen, supports SD cards, and a really high performing chip with ~ 10 hour battery life, all for less than $199. It's not made anymore, can only get up to Android 5 at the moment, and won't take on the full size ipad, but for what you get it's a fantastic deal, if you can still find it. A decent $199 tablet seems to be a lost art these days :/
  • by Nutria ( 679911 ) on Saturday June 11, 2016 @12:49PM (#52295271)

    In fairy land with the unicorns and super-dense LiPo batteries that don't explode when you sneeze really hard.

    Because what do you need in order to power 16GB RAM and a 1TB SSD??? Lots of power. Which don't exist in batteries with the density required at prices that are affordable.

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      It's pointless having 16GB of RAM anyway, because tablet apps don't need it. Anything that needs 16GB RAM would be better run on a laptop with a keyboard and mouse. You can get laptops that are under 800g with a good 12" screen and good battery life.

      1TB of storage is more useful if you are really random and can't plan far enough ahead to whittle your HD movie collection down to a 256GB SD card.

      • It's pointless having 16GB of RAM anyway, because tablet apps don't need it. Anything that needs 16GB RAM would be better run on a laptop with a keyboard and mouse. You can get laptops that are under 800g with a good 12" screen and good battery life.

        1TB of storage is more useful if you are really random and can't plan far enough ahead to whittle your HD movie collection down to a 256GB SD card.

        Remember netbooks? There were lots of slashdot arguments that netbooks have to be used for content consumption only or lightweight browsing and such ; even after they came with a hard drive and Windows, so people ran Photoshop (cracked) and video games on the thing if that's what they wanted to do.
        There's less highly pressing need but some could rely on the tablet like those weird peopke that had a laptop and no desktop all those years ago.
        With a 16GB/1TB tablet you could even ssh or RDP in from a crappy ol

    • by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Saturday June 11, 2016 @03:10PM (#52295951)

      This is the dumbest comment on Slashdot today. There's almost no difference in power consumption between small and large SSDs, likewise with the additional RAM. For example: standby power difference between a 120GB 850 pro and a 500GB 850 pro is in the order of 5mW. For those that don't understand what five milliwatts is let me put it for you in an example:

      An iPad has a 43Wh battery in it. The power difference between the SSDs would drain the battery in 8600 hours, or to put it in numbers that are easier to understand, if you iPad currently lasts 10hours, with the upgraded SSD the iPad would last 9h 59m 18s.

      During write these numbers are worse but the standard tablet usage scenario does not include continuous writing.

  • Here: (Score:4, Informative)

    by bill_mcgonigle ( 4333 ) * on Saturday June 11, 2016 @12:51PM (#52295281) Homepage Journal

    Here [emperorlinux.com].

    Not even a LMGTFY.

  • by jellomizer ( 103300 ) on Saturday June 11, 2016 @01:05PM (#52295357)

    RAM: the more you want the more power it uses. Every one of those bits in RAM being used or not needs that charge to keep its state.
    CPU/GPU: the faster the more power it uses. Every tick is a pulse of electricity
    Video: The higher the resolution the more RAM and CPU/GPU needed.

    Now what happens to this power once the calculation is done. Most of it becomes heat. Excess heat from these devices can damage components in the table. As well damage your body as well.

    Then we have battery life. Battery storage capacity has been improving linearly, while computing power has been growing exponentially. So while the computer components get smaller leaving more room for battery, however it will rarely allow doubling the power capability.

    Your Desktop PC can have loads of performance as you can burn energy right off the grid, filled with big empty spaces for heat dissipation
    Your Laptop PC has less space and weight, however due to the space needed to type on a keyboard they are allowed much more room for battery power, as well some air pathways to keep the device cool.
    Tablets are self contained computing devices. with nearly 0 room to spare. So any components are often underpowered or under clocked to keep heat down and extend battery life.

    Normally this is a good tradeoff as they are normally just browsing web pages, or running simple apps. or more complex apps off of the could.

    • RAM: the more you want the more power it uses. Every one of those bits in RAM being used or not needs that charge to keep its state.

      That's not true and ignores the differences in manufacturing various RAM chips. True adding a whole second stick of memory to a PC will double the amount of power, but going from 1x 4GB stick made up of 8 chips to 1x 16GB stick made up of 8 chips changes nothing due to manufacturing differences in the chips themselves.

      CPU/GPU: the faster the more power it uses. Every tick is a pulse of electricity

      Assuming constant use, yes, assuming low power no not at all again.

      The rest of your post is right on the money.

      • The DRAM sticks in a PC have nothing to do with the SRAM in a tablet. The SRAM idle power consumption is almost purely leakage, and will be proportional to the number of gates - thus doubling capacity will double power consumption. Active power is unlikely to be significantly affected by doubling the memory, however.

        As far as faster CPUs, even on the same process a CPU is synthesized for a target speed. If you want a slower CPU, the synthesis creates smaller (lower-power) transistors, and uses fewer buffe

  • by King_TJ ( 85913 ) on Saturday June 11, 2016 @01:06PM (#52295369) Journal

    Seriously, I work in I.T. for a company with a highly mobile workforce, and we're both Mac and Windows friendly on top of that. So our environment is mixed, with a lot of emphasis on trying out various portable options and cloud offerings, while still supporting some traditional server "back end" for our financial system and shared network drives.

    Long ago, we switched all of our users from desktop systems to laptops, and we had a policy of issuing corporate iPads ever since the iPad 2 came along. (For a long time, we had a division of our company doing iOS software development - so it made sense to issue hardware to run the stuff we made.)

    Right now, we're starting to issue the Microsoft Surface Pro 4 to new hires who request a Windows PC instead of a Mac. And that brings up the question of whether its time to stop issuing iPads - if the Surface Pro is supposed to double as a tablet.

    What we're seeing though is that generally no, the "one solution fits all" model is a big compromise and doesn't really work that well. Out of all of the different computers we've issued over the years, from HP Elitebooks to various Dell machines to different Macbooks -- the only one that's held up over the years as the "gold standard" that users really liked AND worked reliably was the Macbook Air 13". It's light and thin enough so people can throw it in a backpack or whatnot and take it with them without a care. Battery life is great. It's about half the price of the high end Macbook Pro laptops. The basic look stayed the same from the first year of production through current models - meaning there's no stigma about someone pulling out and opening an older 2011 or 2012 model in a meeting with clients. And repairs are pretty reasonably priced. (With Apple doing a "flat rate" repair program on them, you can have one with 5 or 6 things wrong with it and it's still cost effective to have it serviced rather than trash it.)

    With the Surface Pro 4, by contrast? Yes, people think things like the pencil are cool, and it's a very capable machine when plugged into a dock and used like a desktop. But as soon as you take it with you to use like an iPad, you run into a lot of downsides. Battery life NOT so great, for starters. And because it runs a full Windows 10 OS, it has the inherent problems that come with a full blown, more complex OS. Issues not always waking from sleep properly, for example -- leading to a long wait to reboot the whole thing, or apps that aren't designed for the hi-res 4K display so fonts display so tiny, they're unreadable. The keyboard cover is too flimsy to allow typing on it like laptop if you actually have to use it in your lap. (It's designed assuming you have a solid surface like a table underneath the whole thing.) Lastly, I think it's a big omission that you can't buy a Surface Pro 4 with a built-in LTE cellular modem like you can an iPad. Having a cellular data plan on the devices goes a LONG way towards feeling "always connected" and ensuring your cloud-based data or apps are always available "on the go".

    • by bananaquackmoo ( 1204116 ) on Saturday June 11, 2016 @01:20PM (#52295427)
      Disclaimer: I don't like Microsoft, but I like the Surface Pro. All of your complaints are relatively incorrect. I've never had a problem typing on the keyboard cover. You can scale the font-size or set the display to a different resolution. >= Four hours of battery life running a full-fledged OS is, for me, much better than a battery which can last all day but can't do half the stuff I need it to. Who is using it that far away from some kind of charging device for more than 4 hours? I can run multiple VMs at a time or run full windows-based games on it, such as The Division. I've never had any issues with waking from sleep and the reboot isn't long, it's a minor quantity of seconds. Personally I have no issue with tethering to my phone for data. Finally, the Surface (not pro) has an option for built in LTE and gets better battery life, but is admittedly much slower.
      • 4 hours will barely get me between major airports. It is not worth the risk to believe that I can find a place to plug in while in the boarding area. What happen when I have to be in three cities that day? when is the device getting recharged.

      • by King_TJ ( 85913 ) on Saturday June 11, 2016 @07:35PM (#52297127) Journal

        I have to disagree that "all of my complaints are relatively incorrect". I'm glad you haven't experienced issues typing on the MS keyboard cover, but it's a fact that many of our users have. The Surface Pro is designed so it props upright along the edge of the cover, and the cover is a plastic and fabric combo that's slightly flexible. That means if you're sitting on a train or other form of public transportation and it's vibrating/bouncing around, the Surface Pro 4 can't really be held still by the keyboard portion - unlike a laptop with a traditional hinged lid firmly attached to the bottom half of the shell. That doesn't even begin to discuss such questions as why MS feels the need to sell the keyboard cover as an *option* for over $100 on a computer this expensive? Seems to me it should be included, as I've never met anyone who bought a Surface Pro 4 and decided to skip the keyboard cover.

        As for the font scaling? Try any of a number of older apps developed using Java 6.... It's typically not compiled to be "scaling aware" (even if Java 6 technically did offer the option to compile source that way). Our Fonality VoIP "HUD" control panel is one such example. On a Surface Pro 4, if you launch it - you can't even see the phone extensions you're trying to click on because it draws them so tiny. There's no way to get Windows 10 to tell the app to draw it larger in proportion to everything else. All you can do is drag it onto a regular (non 4K) external display where it will display properly.

        • What I'm hearing is "I want to use the keyboard a very specific way that the Surface Keyboard doesn't do" and "I have a problem with Java 6". It's like complaining that the 2 door car you bought doesn't have 4 doors. Why not buy the 4 door car then? I'm saying that I'm very happy with my Surface Pro. The only thing which could make me happier is a better GPU.
    • Interesting. I'm on my second Air, and have considered a Surface. But yeah, the Mac just works, pretty much flawlessly. And tethering to an iPhone is stupid-easy. I'll be moving to Android soon, hopefully that won't screw up tethering.
    • I am glad there are people like you who can think rationally about devices like Surface Pro 4. Those "tablets" suck. They're too bulky and heavy for any real tablety application. Try to hold an iPad Air or Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 and then tell me after that that surface pro 4 is actually a tablet. Moreover, Surface Pro 4 is also a _bad_ notebook. For one, it's very clumsy to be used as a laptop, since the screen won't stand on its own without the rear hinge. The keyboard bends like its made from carboard. And

  • If it could have something to do with the fact that more ram, more cpu, more storage increase power usage, heat production, and weight. And more battery life means more weight.

    I'm not sure there is a very large market for heavy tablets that melt your fingers. Though gaming laptops exist so I'm probably wrong...

  • It's the same reason why 1366x768 laptop displays aren't going away. There's a huge supply of them, they work, and they're cheap.

    Guangdong and Shenzhen are mass producing cheap and common tablet parts like mad. You can find and buy them yourself on Alibaba; there's tons of cheap 8 and 16GB eMMC chips [alibaba.com], 1GB RAM chips [alibaba.com], and ARM processors [alibaba.com]. Companies like Samsung make higher quality and newer, pioneering products, like chips that integrate the storage & RAM together [techspot.com]. Soon, the Chinese generics will add these to their lineup, making tablets even smaller and cheaper.

    If you want something different, vote with your wallet and buy something different. Then, if enough people do, that's what will become cheap and mass-produced.

  • by BrendaEM ( 871664 ) on Saturday June 11, 2016 @01:17PM (#52295413) Homepage

    A tablet camera must be barely acceptable.
    A tablet with a pen must be updated rarely.
    Android cannot be upgraded; You are allowed only one newer version or 2 years, whichever comes first.
    A tablet cannot have removable main storage.
    A tablet must use expensive MicroSD even if there is room for a full sized SD card.
    The number of SD cards must only be 1.
    Android must not be vanilla; it must be larded with crap so updates come slow.
    Early Apple updates must break your device.
    The tablet screen must be so shinny that you cannot use it outside.
    You may not put a volume knob on anything.
    Tablet must all look the same.

    • by Misagon ( 1135 )

      A tablet must have only one data port that is also used for charging.
      A Windows tablet must not act as a USB storage device, only as a USB host or use USB for charging, even if the hardware is capable.

  • by Dracos ( 107777 ) on Saturday June 11, 2016 @01:20PM (#52295423)

    I have yet to come up with a reason why I would want a tablet.

    Tablets are meant for consumption, not production. Touchscreens are a regression in human interfaces: sloppy, imprecise, immediately unintuitive kludges for meta input. Tablets are one side of a power grab by the industry because PCs offer too much freedom, privacy and repairability; the other side is app markets and cloud services. Tablets are too convenient; to achieve that they must sacrifice any spec based on volume: battery capacity, storage, RAM, cooling, etc. Except screen size... gotta keep packing more pixels.

    • Tablets are meant for consumption, not production.

      Interestingly enough computer are meant for both, so at least a portion of your computer load can be served with a tablet and in great comfort too.

    • Exactly. Tablets are primarily information and media consumption devices. I use a smaller 8 inch tablet to browse the web on a living room couch or in the kitchen, and a larger 10 inch android tablet more like a portable screen that I can take to a gym, motel or a flight to watch my favorite shows. But trying to do any productivity work with such device? Please. I have used a surface pro 4, and I can tell that it is both lousy as a laptop and lousy as a tablet. It's much easier and more effective to buy a c

  • Laptops (Score:5, Funny)

    by bluescrn ( 2120492 ) on Saturday June 11, 2016 @01:29PM (#52295473)
    The really good tablets come with keyboards attached...
  • by rasmusbr ( 2186518 ) on Saturday June 11, 2016 @01:39PM (#52295519)

    A lot of companies that make Android tablets over-estimated the market size and rushed to marked with less than stellar devices. Then the market turned out to be a lot smaller and a lot more crowded than most of them had predicted. So they stopped investing in Android tablet hardware development. I think most of the Android tablets that you seen on store shelves now are probably basically 2012 models with some slight modifications. Of course they're under-powered compared to smartphones from 2015 and 2016 that have much more RAM and more powerful CPU:s.

    Some exceptions:
    Lenovo's new models. Their screens are not great, but they're okay for indoor use.
    The Nvidia Shield K1.
    Samsung's high end models, if you want to spend iPad-levels of cash on an Android tablet.

    • most of the Android tablets that you seen on store shelves now are probably basically 2012 models with some slight modifications

      That's a slight exaggeration, but roughly speaking you are correct. Most tablet manufacturers, including Apple and Samsung, are effectively on a 2-year model cycle. They may refresh their products more often, but a lot of those refreshes are basically marketing tricks to keep consumer interest going at all. I recall Apple's re-release an iPad Mini 2 as an iPad Mini 3 in 2014, with

  • I was shocked when I saw how much CPU scripts take on many websites. Even an 3 GHz i5 can get 75% loaded. Small wonder the little tablet ARMs get overwhelmed. Also seriously missing is [mini/micro] HDMI output on nearly all.

    • Indeed, for most PC/tablet users who don't crunch numbers, don't game, and don't encode media files, the number one CPU hog is with web browser. Some of that problem can be mitigated by installing an adblocker, and configuring the flash and silverlight plugins to "always ask to activate". Noscript can improve speed further, but it's actually a big pain to use on daily basis.

  • You're buying the wrong devices.

  • Maybe you should look here: http://computers.amrel.com/rug... [amrel.com]

    Color: Black or NATO Green (Military Package only)
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    12.1” XGA (1024 x 768) with LED Backlit
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    4GB DDR3 1333MHz (Upgradeable to 8GB)
    Intel® HD Graphics 3000
    Standard 500GB SATA HDD (Upgradeable

  • Tablets, with enough resources, and an intelligently designed GUI and intelligently designed apps, could really revolutionize content creation. We have the technology now to do this. But it's not done because of the perception that tablets are only for media consumption.

    But it's not just about tablet hardware -- serious applications must become more touch friendly. And by this I do *not* mean clipping the optional $114 keyboard to the tablet in order to do real work.

    What I want is the equivalent of an Al

    • The problem is user interface devices. Nothing has replaced a keyboard and mouse as a decent way to do lots of work. Using a touch screen is laughable for anything more advanced than picking the media you want to consume, and touchpads aren't much better. I don't even comment on Slashdot without a keyboard available.
    • Yet, sadly, it seems samsung has abandoned their Note line of tablets; I was hoping for them to go this direction :/

    • Well, it would be great if you invented an email client, an calendar, word processor, and the rest of productivity apps that don't need either a keyboard or a mouse.

      • I don't even care about that. I can do most of that on my *phone*. I want a tablet that runs adobe lightroom, photoshop and premere without a stupid keyboard or mouse, in some reasonable fashion. That's my primary use. Office suite is a far far distant second. You can do that on a $200 laptop.

        Why the hell should you have to spend all your time scraping your rat just to move sliders around?

  • 16GB RAM- Not many people use it on desktops, let alone mobile devices. I would like to see 8GB ones though. 1TB Disk- Flash is just too expensive now. A 1TB M.2 drive, what you probably would be looking at, is $500 or so when I last looked. 20hr battery life- Batteries are heavy. And big. And you'd have to lower other specs.
  • A few years back you could buy a decent name-brand 10" tablet for $300. Toshiba made the Excite 10, Samsung and Sony had direct competitors. Now you start at $500 and up for a name-brand 10" tablet, that is laptop territory.

    I love the Excite 10 that I bought, two issues Toshiba no longer updates Android for it and refuses to unlock the bootloader so I can install Cyanogenmod.

    • There is always some kind of deal going on allowing you to buy a Google Nexus 9 or Samsung Galaxy Tab S/S2 for around 400USD. But the way I see it, 400USD retail price for a large table is sort of a price that forces the manufacturers to cut corners. The Galaxy Tab S/S2 have the best screens, build quality, and SD card slot, but also come with poorly performing SoC (probably worse than some 200USD tablets) and poor battery life. The Nexus 9 comes with good SoC and better battery life, but there is no sd car

  • >" A Huffington Post article notes that this behavior has contributed significantly in "generating heaps of e-waste." Citing many advocates, the publication claims that Apple has "opposed legislation that could help curb it." "

    It is a free market (or it is supposed to be, anyway, mostly). Yes, Apple prices suck. Yes, they do things to lock people in and charge an arm and a leg to keep people from fixing things.

    AND YOU ARE FREE TO NOT BUY APPLE PRODUCTS. We don't need "legislation", we need INFORMATION

    • And if you think Apple is a monopoly and there are no other excellent products in every category in which they sell, you have your head in the sand and are buying Apple products as a fashion statement. If that is what you want to do, fine, but stop complaining about it. Yeesh.

      Apple does have a monopoly - on Apple products. I'm always amazed how people can overlook this fact.

      As long as enough people like the products and the price is still within their financial means, Apple will do well financially.

      Of course, there's a limit on how much Apple products and services the average household can buy before the monthly bill becomes existence-threatening.

  • They don't. They're sufficient for their intended purpose when you take into account all the inherent tradeoffs.

    You might as well complain that an A10 is slow or an MX5 has poor towing ability.

  • "Where is the rugged 16GB RAM / 1TB Storage / 20-hour battery tablet?"

    My answer would be "That's easy: They're hidden under their battery-packs!".

    Seriously. Not every stinkin' thing that has a CPU/MCU/SoC in it is EQUIVALENT!

    No matter how the industry tries, they just can't get a computing device with an integrated display, 16GB RAM, 1 TB SSD and under TEN hours of battery life into a package weighing less than about TWO pounds.

    And then you want it to be "Rugged", whatever that means...

    Fine. But people whine about "too heavy" when a Tablet is barely over HALF of that

  • Most tablets are nothing more than streaming devices. You want a more powerful tablet? Then build a monster PC at home connected to fiber optic and stream what it does to your tablet.

    Tablets are not going to do any heavy lifting until they figure out a better battery tech in which to drive all that hardware you are lusting after.

  • What is the use case for 20 hours? Who want the compromise that would entail?

    Q>"have laughable battery times,"...lasts for a day or two in power
    A>Have you looked at an iPad or Surface Pro?

    Q>won't stand a month of regular everyday use and carrying around..."
    A>I've had iPads and a Surface pro for years and they are fine.

    Q>He asks why none of the manufacturers seem willing to offer more than one gigabyte of RAM -- and why they're so stingy with storage.
    A>Have you looked at a Surfac
    • I think the person asking questions was basically a troll. For one, such generous specs are not needed yet on most tablets for years. Second, a "tablet" with such specs (minus battery) already exists. It's called Surface Pro 4. Newegg lists a 16GB/1TB model for $2699 USD.

  • I am sorry OP, but if you want a tablet with 16GB of memory, 1TB of storage, rugged, and a quality screen, then you're going to have to pay the same as for an Ultrabook or tablet with such specs. A Surface Pro 4, comes with about the specs you want, but you gotta pay 2.5K bucks for that.

    And in general, I do not get it why people want a tablet with laptop specs. A tablet with laptop specs (e.g. a surface pro 4) ends up being relatively bulky and heavy, and is actually a lousy tablet and a lousy productivity

  • I would settle for a tablet with a replacable battery.

  • That comes in a 16 GB / 1 TB version. It's very expensive though.

  • It's impossible to find a tablet with a high resolution camera or image stabilization. I must buy two devices.

  • One word answer - heat.

    A tablet just cannot shed as much heat as a larger device so it's not going to match a gaming rig with huge fans.
    It's actually quite amazing that the "low spec" tablets complained about have as much processing power as they have.
    We've become the people who if we had a chance at high speed sub-orbital flight would complain about the airline food :)

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