Slashdot Asks: What's Your Preferred Note-Taking App? 286
Earlier this week, popular note-taking app Evernote announced major changes to its service. The company announced that free users on the app will now only be able to sync across two devices. The company also raised the prices of its paid tiers by 40%. This move, as you can imagine, has resulted in Evernote facing a backlash from many of its users. To give some perspective, Evernote paid plans ($36/ $70 a year) now costs as much as Office 365's $70 Personal yearly plan. With Office 365, obviously, you get more stuff -- including access to Microsoft productivity suite, and 1TB OneDrive storage. Microsoft was quick to release a free tool for Evernote users should they want to move their data to its note-taking service OneNote. OneNote is free to use and offers 15GB free storage to all users. Google's Keep is another good option with 15GB of free storage. Which note-taking app do you use? Anyone who still prefers taking notes on a notebook with a pen?
Pencil and Paper (Score:5, Insightful)
n/t
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yup on postit notes
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pen and paper (Score:5, Informative)
Nothing works better than the old fashioned pen and paper. Simple and straight forward. The batteries don't die, sure my pen might run out of ink, but I can always keep a second one with me.
Sometimes simple tech works the best.
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That's great if you want to roll a filing cabinet with you everywhere you go. Or, I can just use Ever/OneNote and have it all in my pocket.
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With regard to EverNote's changes, I'm not sure why I would use EverNote at the same price as I could acquire the whole Office suite including OneNote, which IMO is better.
Re:pen and paper (Score:5, Insightful)
A filing cabinet? A simple small spiral bound notepad fits in my pocket. There is also the aspect of when you are in meetings that people realize you are actually taking notes and not just looking at your phone and possibly not paying a damn bit of attention to the meeting.
I can take notes on a notepad without looking at the paper, it's a bit harder to do that on a phone. Afterwards it's not too terribly difficult to transcribe my notes to electronic format if I need to.
*Shrug* Maybe I'm just old.
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...transcribe my notes to electronic format...
If you use OneNote and sync your "notes" notebook on OneDrive, you can take a picture of your notes with Office Lens (free) and save it straight into your notebook. I've been surprised how well searching for text in a picture works with this method.
Somewhat OT but if your organize your notebook with year labeled tabs, month labeled pages and a subpage for each day your notes become really easy to browse through.
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It depends on how many notes you have. I'd have to cart around hundreds of small spiral bound notebooks to hold all of my notes. I don't just want a place to write new notes, but I want instant access to all of my previous notes as well. I have a lot of notes.
Re:pen and paper (Score:5, Insightful)
Notes are not meant to be repositories of great knowledge for future generations, they're meant to be small reminders.
At some point, you need to quit calling them notes.
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In other words your solution is also pen and paper. I don't really count the version I've converted to digital after the fact as notes. Notes are that quick thing you do with a handful of people sitting around a table planning and sketching out ideas. A whiteboard also works. Just take a snapshot afterword.
Touchscreens suck but with a decent stylus you can make do for very simple things. It's like having a pen that's alw
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And how, exactly, do you search your hundreds of meeting sessions for that bit of information you need to reference from 3-4 years ago? (NB: if you sit on a board of directors for a non-profit you will, at some point, need to find that entry where Alice and Bob related a critical item of organizational history on which your current board dilemma turns).
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Strictly note-taking, maybe.
But Evernote offers way more than that.
Examples:
#1 I walk on a sidewalk and see a concert poster. I pull out my phone and snap a picture, save it in Evernote. Works for any ad I see in the physical world.
#2 Recording my thoughts is a breeze in Evernote. I pull out my phone and start talking. Sure, you can do that in any number of voice recording applications, but Evernote helps me centralize that data.
At any rate, I don't synchronize between devices for Evernote. I only have it i
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Absolutely.
Pen and paper notes are available to me instantly. No booting anything up, no need for power. No worries about who is going to hack what app or corrupt everything for bitcoin ransom.
I also typically tend to draw diagrams with my notes ( network infrastructure ) so the same pen and paper works just fine for that as well.
Someone else mentioned " rolling around a filing cabinet " but I'm typically not taking notes on THAT much information at any given time.
Besides, you tend to recall it easier onc
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Nothing works better than the old fashioned pen and paper.
Right until it's lost in a fire, or on your desk at home, or in your car, or you have some 20 A4 pages of notes that you carry around, or you want to email them to someone, or you want to put a screenshot in them, or have multiple people edit the same sheet from different places, or.....
Yeah pencil and paper have their place, but they are severely limited compared to your note taking abilities otherwise.
Personally I use Onenote, so does my girlfriend which makes it very easy to open her Onenote book from wo
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Well if there is a fire, chances are I'm going to care a whole lot more about other things that I've lost other than my notes.
If it's important enough, I'll transcribe it to an electronic format that is more useful for other people to use. Often I'm taking notes in a very terse format, not writing an entire document. Though often most of the notes I'm taking are ephemeral in nature. I might need those notes for a week a most, not for the next 30 years.
To each their own.
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Somewhere at the bottom of your desk, old memos are being pressed into coal. [hbingham.com]
Pen and Paper (Score:2, Insightful)
I have never had to agree to having my data mined before using paper.
Sharpie and conference room table (Score:5, Funny)
Google Keep Get My Pick (Score:3, Insightful)
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I use Keep because mostly my notes are scrapbook things.
Anything more than a cut-and-paste and it goes into Collabtive or Basecamp.
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Google Keep is nice but I noticed a big flaw.
If you accidentally delete the content of a note (not the note itself) on the Android app, there is no way to recover it. It can happen if you select a large amount of text and press a key. The note is almost immediately synced and Android has no "undo". Also there are no convenient backup options.
So, you shouldn't use it for notes that you actually want to keep...
I use the tool most appropriate (Score:2)
When I want to take quick notes, I just use a text editor.
They load fast, come pre-installed on all operating systems and work just fine.
If I want to share notes or save them for later, I will paste them into OneNote.
I rarely use OneNote directly to take notes because it takes too long to load.
What else? (Score:2)
VI, launched through my standard "sh". Down with EMACS and ?SH!
You can stay on my lawn but you need to tolerate the taunts! :)
Org-mode (Score:4, Informative)
Notepad ++ (Score:4)
Produces nice txt files that I can use and structure on the fly
Plus it's a hell of a lot better than my handwriting.
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I do use np++ a lot for note taking, but I don't like to have to disable the function autocomplete feature every time I want to take general notes.
The session saving feature does make it nicer for taking general notes, though. Not having to save a document before you close is kind of awesome.
Still, I prefer notepad.exe for general note taking.
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I do use np++ a lot for note taking, but I don't like to have to disable the function autocomplete feature every time I want to take general notes.
Why do you disable that option?
I have the "Function and word completion" option enabled, and I couldn't imagine typing without it. Heck, I even typed most of my college papers in NP++, and then pasted them into MS Word. It is so handy to have long words "pop up" and then press Tab or Enter to select them.
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I do use np++ a lot for note taking, but I don't like to have to disable the function autocomplete feature every time I want to take general notes.
The session saving feature does make it nicer for taking general notes, though. Not having to save a document before you close is kind of awesome.
Highly agree and slightly disagree. I use sublime text 2 like this, partly because it had some multi-cursor and other text editing stuff that I thought was neat, including the autocomplete junk. It's not that important, but I like it. I would definitely shut it off if I weren't used to it, or if it completed things without me noticing more often. I do love most of those little features like autocomplete and matching brackets and the minimap.
Highly agree because the major, major reason I like it is that I ca
Paper by 53 (iPad) (Score:2)
I use Paper by 53 [fiftythree.com].
Google Keep (Score:4, Insightful)
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I tried it yesterday when I found out about the evernote announcement. I grabbed a random note from evernote and tried to add it to keep but I was told that it was too long and I was asked if I wanted to create a google doc! No, I don't want to create a google doc, I want all my notes in one place, just like evernote. I'm still looking for an evernote replacement.
Emacs Org mode (Score:3, Interesting)
I am an adherent of Emacs "org-mode" ( http://orgmode.org/ ) for note taking. I use it almost exclusively.
Org mode is insanely powerful, but like everything in emacs, it has a steep learning curve. Still, if you're taking a lot of notes, I fully recommend it.
Don't subscribe (Score:2)
If you need your notes to sync across devices, why not just use ownCloud or the like?
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I've researched OneNote and EverNote....
Obviously not, because Evernote easily exports some/all of your notes in html format along with an index.html with all of a couple of clicks. I've got a couple years of Evernote notes backed up in nicely organized folders by year and month. I set a reminder to do the export monthly. For the cost (free) and convenience, it's hard to beat.
It would actually be much harder to do with ownCloud, especially when dealing with IT. Evernote is on their "ok" list. OwnCloud, not so much.
Re:Don't subscribe (Score:4, Insightful)
I get the Microsoft hate, but OneNote is free. There is no monthly ransom.
For now. It's still M$, meaning it likely won't end well.
Notepad (Score:2)
Notepad comes free with every copy of Windows. It even existed in the days on Windows 3.1 and Windows CE.
PICO works great under Linux, I can't remember the name of the App I used in Chrome, Tex-Edit Plus on the Macintosh, and desqview I think had a notepad under DOS. iPhone with bluetooth keyboard and Notes App.
And on the Amiga, I used... oh wait, I guess you don't care about those days. But maybe you want to hear about Quick Brown Box on the Commodore 64?
What were we talking about again? Who cares about Ev
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Ascii text is editable on practically any o/s - and will be for the foreseeable future.
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Google Keep (Score:5, Informative)
Google Keep - works everywhere, it's free, has decent search, does everything I need.
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Re:Google Keep (Score:5, Insightful)
Google Keep - works everywhere, it's free, has decent search, does everything I need.
Until it stops working because Google kills the project.
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Google Keep certainly does work very well, but I'm reluctant to trust it. Remember Google Notes? Similar kind of thing, killed off with a pathetic export function that didn't really work for all the refugees. Even Google Reader, that was really popular, was killed off because they couldn't figure out how to make money with it.
I'm using OneNote at the moment.
Old School Solution... (Score:2)
Post-It Notes - Dead Tree Edition.
Yes, even in the paperless office.
Your e-notes are for everyone, eventually. (Score:5, Insightful)
If security is something you're never concerned about with electronic solutions, then by all means, use the tool of your preference. Just understand that your notes are everyone's notes when the next hack is announced.
This is why I prefer good paper and pen. Not old-fashioned, just wise to what will happen eventually. It's become inevitable these days.
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Just understand that your notes are everyone's notes when the next hack is announced.
I hope that Putin remembers to bring home the milk.
They are notes. Notes are disposable, they move around, end up in bins, stuck to screens, left on desks, blown away with the wind... Notes are a security nightmare, worrying about potential hacks in this scenario is a really misplaced fear.
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No need to be a luddite. Encrypt your notes client side, make sure you use two factor auth and a good password. The probability of someone getting through all that is about the same as your house getting robbed and your paper notebooks stolen.
I'm so fed up of this ridiculous claim I'm going to put my money where my mouth is. Here's an encrypted Bitcoin wallet with 1 BTC in it: https://drive.google.com/file/... [google.com]
No need to even crack my Google account, you can just click the link and download it. Anyone who ca
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No need to be a luddite. Encrypt your notes client side, make sure you use two factor auth and a good password. The probability of someone getting through all that is about the same as your house getting robbed and your paper notebooks stolen.
Speaking of luddites, the probability that consumers or creators of e-note products are going to actually implement and support your suggested security model is damn near zero. The fact that the electronic device you've composed your plain-text content on before encrypting it may be already compromised (which you didn't take into consideration)
Everyone wants notes "on the go", so they almost always live on mobile devices as well. It's a bit ironic when "two-factor" mobile app security these days consists
I use the most intuitive of all. (Score:2)
A nice hardback notebook with sewn pages, with a .5 mm Pentel pencil. Has a nice red ribbon bookmark and good paper. The last one lasted a good 4 years before I ran out of paper.
At home a battered old Mead spiralbound with a length of twine tied to the topmost wind and knotted at the free end to serve as bookmark.
I number pages, and have a running index in the last 4 pages to find important things quickly.
Note-taking apps take away my ability to ad-hoc sketch out some concept, or idly doodle during an en
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Oh and I forgot, with pencil, I can emphasize certain words or divide pages into different days by just re-tracing what I wrote once or twice. This makes them jump out of the page.
Zim or CherryTree (Score:3, Interesting)
But my notes are on my local machine and not in "the cloud."
Having used both for an extended period of time, I've decided Zim works better for me.
My true favorite (Score:2)
Campus smart-ring binder, B6 or A5 dot grid paper, Kuru Toga 0.3 mm, preferably metal body.
I like the Signo UM-151-28 0.28 pens also...
Evernote was my fav app, but I've got 3 devices and it's actually not worth money to me. Note taking apps are surprisingly generic in most instances.
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Love those Kuru Toga pencils :-)
Synology NoteStation... (Score:3)
I personally like Synology NoteStation, on a NAS that is dedicated to DMZ/external stuff. It isn't as snazzy as EverNote or other products, but the physical data is under my control, and the NAS appliance can back itself up to a number of sources (external drive, encrypted cloud storage, etc.)
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Killer feature (Score:5, Informative)
Users have been asking Evernote for one single feature since its inception: Client side encryption.
It's also the one feature Evernote seems to absolutely make sure will never happen. Probably for a very good, non user friendly, reason.
I've just made the switch to the open source Turtl. Self-hosting possibilities, client side encryption. All the features from Evernote that I ever used. (And none of the features the Evernote team felt were important to add _instead_ of privacy ... )
http://turtl.it/ [turtl.it]
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*shrugs* - if that's your opinion after having read up on the one-man open source development offering you the possibility to self-host, hey, what can anyone say.
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"Password, File, Image, Bookmark, Text" are the options I get when I want to create a new note. The formatting is Markdown.
Pen and paper used to be good enough for me... (Score:2)
Pen and paper are the way to go (Score:4, Insightful)
Anyone who still prefers taking notes on a notebook with a pen?
Yes, it is the best way for taking the widest variety of notes. OCR with a stylus still isn't that great, especially if you need to incorporate a formula of some sort into your notes while you're going. Typing works if you are taking notes at a history lecture but not for much else. Paper notebooks also never run out of battery and run an OS that never crashes. You might find yourself periodically doodling in your notebook but you'll never find yourself wasting hours on facebook with it.
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Yes, it is the best way for taking the widest variety of notes.
Disagree but ignore that for a moment.
OCR with a stylus still isn't that great, especially if you need to incorporate a formula of some sort into your notes while you're going.
You've moved the goalpost. OCR works just as horribly if you write it on paper and then scan it in. If you have a stylus just write it down. Forget OCR. If you need OCR then Pen+Paper add an additional scanning step which scores a win for electronic methods.
Typing works if you are taking notes at a history lecture but not for much else.
Or in a meeting, or while you're on a phone, or while doing anything that doesn't require you to draw something. But hey you mentioned stylus right, where's the problem? If you can write faster than you type (most se
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There is nothing in the tablet world which is as accurate or content-dense for graphical information than pencil and paper. I say this as someone who has tried nearly all of the tablet options from the last 3-4 years, and has been sketching engineering details for two decades with pencil and paper but *wants* to switch. It's one thing to say you "can" make the same sketch on a tablet as you can on paper - and it is possible with some re-training in how you write - but it will never be as fast or efficient a
Depends (Score:2)
If I've jumped out of bed with some cool ideas still in my head it is the pen and paper sitting at all times on my desk. This is a habit from the days when it was taking 5 mins to boot into a working Windows 7 desktop and the ideas might slip away in that time.
After that I expand the ideas out and write them into markdown or text files and save them to a folder on my Google Drive. That way I know they are permanently backed up offsite immediately. It's free, available on every major platform and easy to cop
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But, sometimes, a phone is all I have. And sometimes, I just need the speed and organization of taking notes with a laptop.
OneModel / OM (Score:2)
I have tried and thought about many things until finally writing my own tool that is extremely fast, powerful, and flexible. Currently it could be seen as org-mode replacement that addresses some of the key challenges (hard to learn, awkward) while keeping some key benefits (efficient from keyboard, extremely flexible), and adding huge flexibility in what can be done: http://onemodel.org/ [onemodel.org] (AGPL).
It is a personal organizer, is something like really fast mind maps but (currently) keyboard-driven and handles v
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You should look at Lotus Agenda.
Ideally you want a program like that to be able to ingest email and web clippings, these days.
I use (Score:4, Informative)
My favorite is the iPhone Notes app, because it comes with my phone and it's always with me. If I'm sitting at my computer, I'm more likely to use Notepad. Ye olde paper & pen is by far the fastest, but I don't always have paper with me, and I tend to lose paper notes.
Summary should have set requirements (Score:2)
Obviously, syncing across multiple devices is important. "Pen and paper" answers are funny the first time it's posted, but not useful beyond that. Simple note taking or text editing answers also don't really help.
I just discovered EverNote, and I appreciate the ability to encrypt sections of a note. I'm also disappointed in their new restrictive terms, but I understand.
I like Tomboy, but it is horrible at synchronizing with a shared folder, and has no cross-device usage.
I haven't used OneNote but may look i
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Not at all obvious to me.
Well, I still like Evernote (Score:2)
I use Evernote extensively across several Macs and iOS devices using native applications, a Pebble watch using Powernoter (awesome for checking off shopping list items while in the store), and my Linux desktop at work using the web interface. I like that I can tag and apply other metadata for organizational purposes, encrypt entire notes or just portions of text, and it's all rich content so I have one entire notebook full of Owner's Manuals in PDF format. They also integrate well into the various platform
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All this makes me long for the simple days when I used TiddlyWiki on a flash drive I'd carry around and plug into computer or laptop, back before smartphones and other mobile devices.
Tiddlywiki-in-the-sky: https://github.com/Jermolene/T... [github.com]
OneNote (Score:2)
Being primarily a Windows user, I use OneNote. Our Office started using it and I got hooked. For quick notes on my phone, I use "Note Everything." I currently do not use any syncing or backup of notes, no encryption, and no sending them to a third-party. It's kinda like how notes were in the old days with pen and paper.
There is a OneNote for Android, so I might try that.
My ideal solution would probably be OwnCloud. It's the best of all worlds: privacy, security, backup, synchronization.
Self-owned solutions: (Score:2)
I use an Android app called Tasks & Notes. One of the main selling points is that it can sync to my Horde server.
I used the built-in Palm notes app for years and years, which highlights the overwhelming inferiority of "modern" notes apps (this is typical of post-Palm apps, which kept me on my Treo until the cellular network it uses was finally pulled).
Tasks & Notes is the least bad replacement I've been able to find, and I installed maybe a couple dozen candidates. Note that I reject without any c
Lotus Agenda is sorely missed (Score:2)
For tetx-based notes, Lotus Agenda was the best ever made. Like many good things, it died.
Tiddlywiki (Score:2)
I use Tiddlywiki (stupid name, great program!) -- "a non-linear personal web notebook". It's a single-file wiki that lives on your local machine. There are ways to push to Dropbox or other services if you want anywhere-access, but whether you want that or not just depends on how you want to use it.
http://tiddlywiki.com/ [tiddlywiki.com]
Apple Pencil (Score:4, Informative)
Being a science/engineering PhD student I still take a LOT of handwritten notes.
Last year, when it was released, I snatched up the 12.9" iPad Pro and the Apple Pencil. It is truly AWESOME for taking notes!
I use a great app called "Notability" which syncs through iCloud (and backs up in PDF form to Dropbox) so my notes instantly show up on my phone and computers.
It's great in class... and maybe even better as a "lab notebook".
A long time ago when I was doing my masters I actually used one of the first Windows "convertible" tablets for all of my notes. It "worked" but wasn't nearly as nice of an experience as the Apple Pencil and iPad Pro. The Apple Pencil is incredibly accurate and the iPad Pro is essentially the same size as a regular sheet of paper. Really nice tools to work with!
ownNote (Score:2)
That said I usually use OneNote for anything that isn't sensitive and use ownNote just for things I dont want unencrypted in the cloud
My (academic) perspective (Score:2)
It all depends on what kind of notes you take and what for. I am a professor and I tend to jot down lots of quick thoughts that some day I may work into a publication or else post online. I also write down detailed notes on books, i.e. what important thing I found on what page. I tend to hand write notes on color-coded post-its in the book and then I transcribe these on the computer either by typing or by voice.
I used to use OneNote a long time ago because it is very versatile and it's easy to make charts,
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The more I use highly specific solutions tied to a particular bit of software, the more wary I am of them. Sometimes pen and paper, or if electronic, plain text in hierachical folders is the most future-proof way out there (I think also for maintaining bibiliographies). You can tidy up plain text by writing it out in markdown and converting to pdf for printing. Do you linux? I know office is unfortunately engrained in academia - I'm trying to avoid it using latex/pdf instead, but we'll see how long that
BBEdit (Score:2)
BBEdit on Mac (my normal computing platform), in Markdown format. (Usually Pandoc-flavored markdown.) That's if I want the notes to last more than five minutes.
Under five minute notes are often on paper, using either pen or pencil. (Mechanical pencil preferred, but pen's easier to find.)
On other platforms I'll take whatever is the best text editor I can find commonly available - vi or some derivative on most Unix/Linux boxes.
Notepad++ (Score:2)
My work notes live in a pile of text files. For every current project, I've got a file open in Notepad++. The project file contains a log of things I've done, a list of things to do etc. Currently I've got about 30 open files.
For notetaking during meetings I use pen and paper (writing's still a lower cognitive load than typing), afterwards the results get transcribed.
The only drawback is I can't add drawings. I don't need many of those though.
Onenote changed my life (Score:2)
I used to be firmly in the pen and paper camp, but that's because taking notes was always too inconvenient with a laptop. That all changed with tablets and styluses.
I now use Onenote for everything. The ability to quickly screenshot, import a print, scribble, write, make checkable lists, sync between devices without breaking things, quickly email a copy, easily erase or make corrections, move things around after (god I used to write some illegibly small garbage in margins), sort things logically, make your
Requirements (Score:3)
I'm trying to think of all of my requirements:
1. Easy to add a new note
2. Ability to categorize notes (put into notebooks)
3. There is a app on on all the devices I use (phone, tablet, desktop)
4. Synch happens automagically.
5. Ability to search across all notes and to search within one note.
6. Ability to link notes together like a wiki.
7. Ability to export all the notes in a non-binary format (zipped file containing text or html files).
8. Can work offline and then synch when there is an internet connection again.
9. Option to encrypt notes (either all notes or just certain notes).
10. Ability to use markdown syntax?
Keep it simple, stupid (Score:2)
I see a lot of hipster angst going on here. Me? I use what is convenient and falls ready to hand. I scribble on 3x5 cards which I have stacks of on my desk, but mostly I use plain text in emacs. Some 30 years ago I used pmate, and every one of those files, just like all my emacs files, remains perfectly readable using the "less" command or cat to stdout. I do maintain my own dokuwiki on a VPS. The VPS costs me only $3 a month and is accessible from anywhere with an internet connection. It is searchable and
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Email client (Outlook or Gmail) for searching (Score:2)
I instead have been using E-mail clients for the last several years (whether it's company Outlook or personal Gmail). This has several advantages:
1. You can search through your notes.
2. If on corporate Outlook, there is security thanks to the IT department.
3. You can have rich markup if you need it.
4. You can immediately email out meeting notes.
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Quiver
Quill.
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Queef, and I meant that.
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Pen and paper don't fail me in the middle of a deadline.
I keep reading variations of this theme in this discussion.
Am I the only one here who's able to plug in his phone every night?
I even have a spare battery for my phone in my backpack just in case, but I never need it, even on long rides or hikes where I'm running GPS tracking in the background. It's really simple: I plug in my phone at night when I go to sleep. Then it always lasts for the whole next day, with plenty of reserve.
I must be weird.
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Pen and paper don't fail me in the middle of a deadline.
I keep reading variations of this theme in this discussion.
Am I the only one here who's able to plug in his phone every night?
I think many of them were posted in jest.
I also use my phone. I like an app called ColorNote because it lets me create both plain text and checklist entries.
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I've been told that nobody has any interest in my thoughts.
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Here's something that, I believe, both emacs and vi users can agree on: both editors royally suck at rapid notation of graphical content and searching of jpg (and image-based pdfs) for text content within.
And nobody pays $70 for a "note taking app". Evernote, up until recently, was free to upload and sync lots of content over multiple devices (with offline caching control for limited memory devices) and worked with lots of different content types - including OCR of both typed and handwritten information. W