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Ask Slashdot: How Do You Choose a News Source? (csmonitor.com) 275

Obfiscator writes: Journalism has long had potential to change the world. The latest elections in the United States demonstrated new dimensions of this, with the rise of "fake news" and "echo chambers," as well as a president who has few reservations in expressing his thoughts of the media. The Christian Science Monitor has been a favorite news site of mine for years, due to their objective and balanced reporting, as well as their tendency to avoid "breaking news" and provide detailed analysis a few days later. Very few stories are going to impact my world to the point where waiting a couple days to read about them will make a difference. Despite the name, the vast majority of articles have no religious context (they address this in their FAQ). CSM has recently switched to be completely behind a paywall, as well. In their words, "We hope the Monitor Daily addresses both those trends. It is pushed to where our readers are and offers this pact: We will deliver our distinctive view of the world and you support financially our ability to produce that news." Is this the next trend: moving away from advertising revenues? Will this create more balanced journalism, as there is no need to attract clicks? Or will it deepen "echo chambers?" How do Slashdotters choose their news sites?
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  • i do not choose (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Moblaster ( 521614 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @08:10PM (#54514589)
    My choice basically boils down to the stuff I reflexively type in mindlessly in temporary semi-subconscious distraction, as I unthinkingly consume one of a very limited number of news site that grabbed my mind share at one point. After that it's turtles all the way down, as I keep typing in the same urls like a laboratory crack monkey seeking its next hit from the lever. These patterns last years or decades.
    • Re:i do not choose (Score:5, Interesting)

      by GodWasAnAlien ( 206300 ) on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @03:41AM (#54516119)

      Agreed.

      Take the union of fox news and CNN.
      The result is the news.
      Sometimes the result is the empty set.

    • by zifn4b ( 1040588 )

      After that it's turtles all the way down, as I keep typing in the same urls like a laboratory crack monkey seeking its next hit from the lever.

      We all live in an operant conditioning chamber
      An operant conditioning chamber
      An operant conditioning chamber
      An operant conditioning chamber

      We all live in an operant conditioning chamber
      An operant conditioning chamber
      An operant conditioning chamber
      An operant conditioning chamber

      Is that you mean by "turtle"? :)

  • I would suggest... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by dgatwood ( 11270 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @08:15PM (#54514609) Homepage Journal

    ...watching MSNBC & Al Jazeera and splitting the difference.

    That's half facetious, but the reality is that if you get all your news from a single source, you're guaranteed to get a biased view of reality, no matter what the source. The best thing you can do is to get information from as many different sources as possible, and when there are differences, do a little digging through meta-analysis sites to try to figure out where the truth lies.

    If you don't have time to do that, your only choice is to accept that you will always be at least to some degree uninformed, hope that it doesn't matter, and don't worry about it.

    • by Kohath ( 38547 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @08:30PM (#54514671)

      Watching TV news is a horrible use of time. TV news has negative value -- if you consume it, your life will be worse than if you don't. And your net knowledge of the world ("net" meaning information - misinformation) may go down.

      • by CaptainDork ( 3678879 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @11:07PM (#54515333)

        Agree to this and parent.

        I monitor online newspapers in the US, Canada, Australia, UK. I visit NPR, as well.

        TV is dangerous.

        • by Xest ( 935314 )

          Disagree by a long shot in the UK - TV news such as BBC, ITV, Channel 4 are far, far superior to print media here.

          We were dependent on them to break the Jimmy Savile scandal where print media absolutely failed for example.

          Print media in the UK is an absolute farce. There's barely a single publication that's worth the paper it's written on - even the more moderate papers like The Guardian and The Independent spout some incredible shit sometimes.

      • Watching TV news is a horrible use of time. TV news has negative value -- if you consume it, your life will be worse than if you don't. And your net knowledge of the world ("net" meaning information - misinformation) may go down.

        I generally agree with this, but there are certain things that can be conveyed much more clearly through television, such as body language, tone of voice, sarcasm, among others. These can help you make judgment calls about a person's credibility.

        • by Kohath ( 38547 )

          These can help you make judgment calls about a person's credibility.

          I can't imagine caring enough about someone's credibility one way or the other for it to be worthwhile. Do you have an example of when this judgement was needed?

          • I can't imagine caring enough about someone's credibility one way or the other for it to be worthwhile. Do you have an example of when this judgement was needed?

            Credibility is everything. And body language and delivery conveys credibility.

            Example? Just about every stirring speech.
            - It's one thing to read "I have a dream speech". It's another to listen to it, and it's yet another to watch it.
            - Obama's careful and thoughtful delivery of his policy, conveys that he understands it.
            - Trump's emotional delivery conveys that he understands the "common man".
            - It's why people are called into court to testify, rather than relying on a written statement.

            I'll add that

            • by fortfive ( 1582005 ) on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @07:21AM (#54516609)

              Witnesses are not called in to court to be viewed, they are called in to be cross-examined.

            • by Kohath ( 38547 )

              It's one thing to read "I have a dream speech". It's another to listen to it, and it's yet another to watch it.

              Too bad he told black folks to all vote for one party. If they split it up more, black folks would have 2 parties trying to appeal to them in different ways to get their votes. Versus now, where they have one answer, and the D party spends it's time trying to scare them into voting, while the R party tries to scare others into voting the other way.

              Obama's careful and thoughtful delivery of his policy, conveys that he understands it.

              "If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. Period."

              Trump's emotional delivery conveys that he understands the "common man".

              I'm sure he will tell "the common man" it's the other side's fault when he fail

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      • I assume you're talking about TV news reporting on national and world events, and I'd agree with that opinion. However, local TV news is still a pretty good way to keep up to date on local current events and matters of local relevancy across the spectrum (be they political, crime-related, traffic, weather, sports, etc.) all in one place. The Internet has yet to supplant this and I expect it won't any time soon as the relative market shares are too small to incentivize a lot of competition and the local TV
      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        I'd much rather people watched a 15 minute BBC bulletin than nothing at all... In fact the BBC used to do a 60 second summary on BBC 3, which while shallow was actually pretty informative and reached a lot of people who would otherwise pay no attention.

    • Wall street journal (Score:5, Interesting)

      by goombah99 ( 560566 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @08:47PM (#54514731)

      As long as you don't read the editoral section or even one of the comments, the WSJ has great news. In part it's because they try to provide analysis. What does this news mean to you. The washington post is doing something similar but they are a lot more hyperventilating than the WSJ.

      But for the love of god do not read the comments section. It will make you weep for humanity. Nothing but kneejerks, tards, and flambait. And the editorial section is pretty hilarious because they appear to have built a firewall between they editorail commentary and the news analaysis such that very often their news analysis flatly rejects the basis of their own editorials. Fairly rabid editorials.

      • by nbauman ( 624611 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @10:08PM (#54515067) Homepage Journal

        As I wrote elsewhere here, I used to be a WSJ fan, until Rupert Murdoch bought them up. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12... [nytimes.com]

        Ironically, their greatest coverge was about the WSJ takeover attempt itself. During the Murdoch takeover, they had stories every day giving the background and details of Murdoch's journalism career, and the Bancroft family. They did it with their usual freedom to write about anything they thought was important, even if it meant airing the family secrets of the publishers.

        It turned out that the reason why the WSJ was such a great newspaper was that the Bancroft family had a commitment to great journalism. It was quite profitable and they were willing to accept those profits. The next generation of Bancrofts weren't willing to accept those profits. After I read that series, I understood for the first time how a newspaper works. (Basically, rich publishers do whatever they want. If they want great journalism, they can get it.)

        They also exposed Murdoch as an unethical, criminal scumbag. The worst thing he did was to agree to censor news of human rights violations in China, in return for getting his cable networks into China. They also catalogued the promises that he made and broke, in case anybody believed his promises to preserve the WSJ's editorial independence.

        The WSJ didn't submit either of those series to the Pulitzer Prize competition.

    • ...watching MSNBC & Al Jazeera and splitting the difference.

      That's half facetious, but the reality is that if you get all your news from a single source, you're guaranteed to get a biased view of reality, no matter what the source. The best thing you can do is to get information from as many different sources as possible, and when there are differences, do a little digging through meta-analysis sites to try to figure out where the truth lies.

      If you don't have time to do that, your only choice is to accept that you will always be at least to some degree uninformed, hope that it doesn't matter, and don't worry about it.

      And if you like those, try TYT on YouTube instead of MSNBC. Basically anything with Cenk is pretty decent.

    • by nbauman ( 624611 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @10:16PM (#54515125) Homepage Journal

      Actually, with Al Jazeera you're ahead of the game.

      Al Jazeera was founded by BBC reporters, with the Sultan of Qatar paying the bills. The Sultan was pretty tolerant of controversial coverage, but he did have limits.

      So Al Jazeera has good western-style journalism, with fact-checking and getting all sides. They have lots of interviews with pro-Israel sources, for example.

      • by mvdwege ( 243851 )

        I noticed in their recent coverage a massive anti-Kurdish bias; basically following the Ankara line.

        But I notice this because I have some Kurdish acquaintances online, so the dictum that you need multiple sources remains true.

    • I do that and then I look the The Economist, because in the end it's all about the money.
    • I came to say this. I read the Telegraph and Guardian and - like you say - split the difference.

      • For the benefit of our foreign readers, a quick overview of British newspapers.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

      • by rtb61 ( 674572 )

        I do a cross correlation of news sources and routinely and regularly adjust news sources. Some sources are particular unreliable at this time, all US main stream media and all UK main stream media and I generally ignore them. A headline grab through some of the others RT etc. and any particular story I have an interest in, I'll search and pick up a couple of sources. Comparing those sources, writing style, external sources, links, can generate a general change in news sources, for a time, it is now a consta

    • by ( 4475953 )

      That's how I do it, too. On the net, I'm checking BBC, Al Jazeera, the Washington Post, Nytimes, local German news site tagesschau.de, and sometimes also obvious crap like CNN, Fox "News", and RT. Taken in combination, these provide a fairly good picture of what's going on. If I'm interested in a particular news story that seems fishy to me, I sometimes Google more information for my own fact checking, which involves encyclopedia articles, statistics from scientific sites and scientific articles but may als

    • I don't get news from a single source, not from a single type of outlet. TV and newspapers provide one part, but I also read a number of opinion sites of various political colors, some of which might be called "shock blogs". And I do read the comments on those; often there's links to information not found on mainstream media. You have to filter and vet those to some degree, but they often give a far more detailed background insight than you'd get from traditional news outlets.
    • by Zocalo ( 252965 )

      ...watching MSNBC & Al Jazeera and splitting the difference.

      Taking whatever Fox News and The Daily Mail say and assuming the exact opposite works just as well, and is usually more entertaining.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @08:16PM (#54514613)

    Then I watch Fox News because Jesus hates Muslims too.

  • by beheaderaswp ( 549877 ) * on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @08:18PM (#54514617)

    In order to be informed one must digest many news sources- even when their bias is not your bias. Even foreign sources.

    Then... you ruminate. Let the information sink in. And make the best call you can about what is true.

    At the moment much of journalism has lost it's value. But in my opinion, the bright spots are easy to spot when you ignore your own ideology and start matching facts against stories.

    Just make sure you have a real understanding about what a "fact" actually is.

    • by burtosis ( 1124179 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @10:10PM (#54515075)

      In order to be informed one must digest many news sources- even when their bias is not your bias. Even foreign sources.

      Then... you ruminate. Let the information sink in. And make the best call you can about what is true.

      At the moment much of journalism has lost it's value. But in my opinion, the bright spots are easy to spot when you ignore your own ideology and start matching facts against stories.

      Just make sure you have a real understanding about what a "fact" actually is.

      Exactly. I am not at all conservative and like watching Fox News occasionally for the lols. Even conservative talk radio. Rush made me laugh harder than any stand up comic with

      I don't understand how pollution is even possible. It comes from the earth, and goes back to the earth.

    • by bill_mcgonigle ( 4333 ) * on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @10:27PM (#54515165) Homepage Journal

      Yup. I have a folder in my bookmarks - it has a bunch of wide-ranging sources, "professional" and "amateur", libertarian to socialist. I right-click, "Open All in New Window" and go through each one, closing each tab with a new angle.

      Being informed is hard work, unfortunately.

    • At the moment much of journalism has lost it's value.

      Compared to when? Since the election, reporters seem to have started to grow up and take initiative.

      The white house press corps has always been used to spread propaganda from the white house. There would be tough questions, sure, but the responses would be at most "uh, uh, uh, uh, lemme get back to you on that next question." It was never "crap, you win, we were being evil there." With the current administration, I think plenty of people are realizing real answers aren't being given in the press room. P

  • Read whatever (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Kohath ( 38547 )

    Just don't necessarily believe it.

    Especially if there's some sort of emotional resonance or if it seems especially convenient to someone's worldview.

    Daily Mail seems OK. And factual financial news is rarely biased to the point of uselessness. Tech news can be ok.

    Also, read stories about what happened, not stories about what might happen, or stories about what it might mean to someone, or stories about someone reacting to what happened. Facts, not "meaning".

    And remember the news isn't about you.

    • Daily Mail seems OK.

      Very funny.

    • Daily Mail seems OK

      There's an old Japanese proverb, if you believe everything you read you had better not read.

      Any mention of the Daily Mail makes me think of that. A copy of the DM and it's equally contemptuous counterpart, the Sun usually find their way into the break room daily. The Daily Mail is like eating a bag of chocolate coated crisps, no nutritional value and the flavour combination is terrible. The DM is openly biased towards the extreme right however most of their articles are celebrity tra

      • I've been quite impressed with Apple's News. It manages to pick topics that I'm interested in, but without universally picking sources that have biasses that I agree with. I see quite a lot from the Guardian and BBC News, but there's also a fair smattering of Daily Express, Daily Mail and Telegraph in there, as well as a bunch of other things. I've been particularly amused by the shift in the Evening Standards reporting from entirely pro-Tory to being opposed to anyone that slighted George Osborne during
  • by tgibson ( 131396 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @08:24PM (#54514641) Homepage

    use the following phrases in story titles and subtitles:
    1. Here's what you need to know about...
    2. Everything you need to know about...
    3. ...number [x] will leave you..
    4. This is how...
    5. The science behind...
    6. ...you've been waiting for
    7. ...you should...
    8. [x] (silences|schools) [y] with one [z]

  • Non-profit news (Score:4, Insightful)

    by koavf ( 1099649 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @08:24PM (#54514643) Homepage
    If you are looking for just one metric, a good one is to avoid corporate or state-sponsored news. God knows there will be a lot of dross still but it won't be supported by a huge propaganda machine that can manufacture consent. The Christian Science Monitor has always had a unique non-profit model (which may not be workable anymore but has resulted in some excellent reportage for a long time) and similarly, so does ProPublica.
    • Re:Non-profit news (Score:4, Interesting)

      by AaronW ( 33736 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @10:03PM (#54515045) Homepage

      The CSM is an excellent news source. Despite the name it is a secular news source that does good investigative reporting. I pay for this as well as a few other news sources which I believe do real journalism such as the New York Times, the Washington Post, The Atlantic and NPR. The Wall Street Journal is also good, though I strongly disagree with much of their commentary.

  • by djbckr ( 673156 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @08:25PM (#54514649)
    Slashdot. News for Nerds. Stuff that matters!
  • I shy away from MSNBC because they're 99% video and that drives me nuts. I don't want 20 minutes of video just to get to a few salient details. I steer clear of Fox News because I know a corporate shill when I see it. Not that CNN doesn't do a fair amount of shilling...

    Besides that there's the BBC if I want something more or less objective, but it's getting harder to act objective when half the country is is objectively nutso. That's kinda the trouble with CNN: They give nut cases a platform in the name
    • "there's the BBC if I want something more or less objective"

      You're making "more or less" do quite a lot of work there. The BBC has an official policy of providing balanced coverage, but being a state-run organisation has a natural bias in favour of state-run organisations. It is also almost entirely staffed by metropolitan liberals, whose personal political viewpoints colour a lot of their coverage. (Note: this is a bias not a conscious agenda. I know several BBC employees and they are all well-meaning and genuinely think they're being neutral; but they shudder at t

  • Choose them all (Score:5, Interesting)

    by nobuddy ( 952985 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @08:30PM (#54514673) Homepage Journal

    Read a wide variety of news. Reuters feed, AP feed, news channel sites, newspaper sites. Compare them to each other, and research the claims.

    The truth is not Fox, or CNN, or The Times. It is somewhere in the middle of the bunch. And parts of it are scattered all over.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Lots of people in these comments are falling for the golden mean fallacy. The truth is not the middle ground between opposing reports. Consider how easily you can be manipulated by having a bad actor merely spout out the opposite of whatever it is they don't want getting out.

    • By all are you including sources like Breitbart and Infowars? I mean you did say "all" or is there a limit to "all"?

      Actually I would include them. Reading something from Infowars and automatically thinking the opposite will likely get you closer to reality than most news sites will.

  • by murdocj ( 543661 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @08:36PM (#54514693)

    I generally rely on a mix of NPR, CNN & NY Times, but I actually go to Fox just to see their slant on the news. It can be pretty amazing... headline stories on the other sources literally don't exist on Fox. I read an interesting article that said that Fox had perfected altering the news cycle:

    1) bad story comes out on trump
    2) Fox instantly headlines some conspiracy theory (like about the murdered Clinton aide) to divert attention, and buries the real story.
    3) To close the loop, Fox claims that the bad news about Trump is the "fake news" that's being used to divert attention from the "real story" that was hatched on some conspiracy website.

  • Whenever a good news portal hides itself behind a paywall the the caravan/customers move on to a less good news portal.

    In the end we will all be using breitbart, sputnik and al jazeira because everything else is behind a pay wall. Those who are not looking forward in generating monetary profit will simply outlast everybody else.

    Dont blame the customers, blame the companies.

    • by Altrag ( 195300 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @10:14PM (#54515105)

      You can't really blame the companies either. Real journalism requires an investment of both time and money that sensationalist bullshit doesn't, and on top of that important stories aren't always amenable to clickbaity titles.

      That means real journalism both costs more and generates less (advertising) revenue. Alternative sources have to be found if they intend to keep operating while retaining some modicum of journalistic integrity.

      I mean in a sense you can blame the companies for not changing their business model to "unverified partisan rants" like Breitbart, but that doesn't really help us get real news and while it may be financially good for any particular news outlet, it would be a significant detriment to the world as a whole and really shouldn't be something we encourage.

      The only other option is to convince people to be critical of what they read/hear/see but that has continually proven itself an impossible task. Most people are happy living in their comfort zone and really don't want to leave, especially if it takes extra effort to do so.

      Unfortunately this puts us in a worst-of-both-worlds situation: Doing the best thing journalistically is somewhat mutually exclusive with doing the best thing financially.

      I don't know if paywalling is the solution to this dilemma or not. I suspect it won't be, if for no other reason than because most people won't want to (or more likely just can't afford to) subscribe to more than one or two news services and end up in just a different kind of bubble. But at least they're trying to do something beyond just selling out and, at least for a little longer, the world can retain a few outlets that attempt to peddle real (and verified) news rather than just partisan rants.

  • by kwerle ( 39371 ) <kurt@CircleW.org> on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @08:38PM (#54514707) Homepage Journal

    If they have a slant it isn't really greased by the same powers here.

    • by erice ( 13380 )

      If they have a slant it isn't really greased by the same powers here.

      Except for the wars where the British follow the American lead. But, yes, I think the BBC is generally a good source. When looking for a news source that is relatively unbiased on a particular issue (the best you can reasonably get), look for someone who doesn't have a strong reason to care about the outcome. Thus, foreign media can provide impartiality (if not detail) on domestic news. International news is trickier since the US has it's fingers in so many pots.

    • by mjwx ( 966435 )

      If they have a slant it isn't really greased by the same powers here.

      The BBC is good because lefties think that it's right leaning and righties think its left leaning. If it keeps the two extremes confused, they're doing it right.

      The BBC has one issue where the UK govt has neutered their ability to report of some things the UK govt does, it hasn't turned them into a mouthpeice like Russia Today. I prefer the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) because they've fought governments in Australia who've tried to gag the media (most recently the Abbott government) and they

  • Can you pass an Idealogical Turing Test [wikipedia.org]? Seek out news sources that promote the idealogical side that you are less versed in.

  • Never trust a single source to be unbiased or even true. Use multiple sources, as independent as possible, from more than one country. This is FAR easier to do on line that via any mass media source. Most mass media news sounds like they are reporting a sporting event than things that have true life of death import.
  • by NewtonsLaw ( 409638 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @08:52PM (#54514757)

    Oh, come on, really?

    There is only ONE authoritative source of well-researched, verified, informative, objective news reporting and that is The Daily Mail!

    Fantastic, hard-hitting news without all the fakery that drives so many click-bait sites these days

    </sarc>

  • by Kreigh ( 315189 ) <Kreigh@noSpam.Tomaszewski.net> on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @08:53PM (#54514763)

    I season my variety of domestic news sources, which includes newspapers, television, radio, and the internet, with reporting from outside of the United States. The BBC is the first, and probably best, source that comes to mind, but Australia and India also provide English resources for news not biased by American ideology.

    • The Beeb is OK for non UK news but anything that touches British politics is biased as hell since the Tories had a word with them about their funding options. Laura Kuenssberg is a disgrace and should be removed as political editor.
  • Choose? There is no Choose. Only read or read-not.

  • Maybe back in the day there was but today it isn't news, it is entertainment, They all lie. They are all biased. None of them can hold a consistent logical position.

    Or they use polling like it is some hard scientific fact that should dictate policy.

    Or refuse to criticize their team.

    When people discuss "Facts" I always ask how do you those "facts" are real and aren't manipulated. The answer (regardless of party) is always the same because a) my news source doesnt lie or b) it came from some governm
    • What is the alternative? If I want know about, for example the war in Ukraine, do I need to take a trip there myself? Am I prohibited from discussing it until I do? "The media are all liars" is a great line to trot out when you want to discount a piece of news you find unfavorable, though. No wonder its usually the unfavorable who push it.
  • by p51d007 ( 656414 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @09:02PM (#54514813)
    I'm conservative, but I like to read VARIOUS sites. I read overseas, domestic, conservative, liberal then, form my own opinion, based on my own belief.
  • I'll miss the hearing-aid ads.

  • by thinkwaitfast ( 4150389 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @09:14PM (#54514861)
    The rise? What rise? It has been like this for as long as I've been alive. ~40 years. I stopped watching/listening/reading almost all news 30 years ago and yet somehow enough leaks in to keep up with current events to the extent that they affect me or somehow influence my life. Knowing who is president, or who hates him or how big the shoe was stuck in his mouth does not influence my life in the least. Neither do stars or plane crashes. I know what I need to know.

    I just don't care and am one of the most well adjusted people I know. Weird maybe, but not neurotic or stressed.

    Watching "news" 18 hours a day does not contribute to this. To everybody else, enjoy your medicated sanity.

  • I make my living off the evening news

    Just give me something-something I can use

    People love it when you lose,

    They love dirty laundry

    Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here

    I just have to look good, I don't have to be clear

    Come and whisper in my ear

    Give us dirty laundry

    Kick 'em when they're up

    Kick 'em when they're down

  • by nbauman ( 624611 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @09:46PM (#54514979) Homepage Journal

    I ask myself, "Does this news source give all viewpoints, including the ones I disagree with, including the unpopular ones?" I judge them first by the subjects that I'm most familiar with myself (primarily medicine and biology). Classroom example: Does a story about abortion give both (or all) sides? http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02... [nytimes.com]

    In my freshman year of college, even the engineering majors had to take a humanities course. The most valuable book they gave me was John Stuart Mill's On Liberty. http://www.bartleby.com/130/2.... [bartleby.com] Mill summarized it himself:

    First, if any opinion is compelled to silence, that opinion may, for aught we can certainly know, be true. To deny this is to assume our own infallibility.

    Secondly, though the silenced opinion be an error, it may, and very commonly does, contain a portion of truth; and since the general or prevailing opinion on any subject is rarely or never the whole truth, it is only by the collision of adverse opinions that the remainder of the truth has any chance of being supplied.

    Thirdly, even if the received opinion be not only true, but the whole truth; unless it is suffered to be, and actually is, vigorously and earnestly contested, it will, by most of those who receive it, be held in the manner of a prejudice, with little comprehension or feeling of its rational grounds.

    And not only this, but, fourthly, the meaning of the doctrine itself will be in danger of being lost, or enfeebled, and deprived of its vital effect on the character and conduct: the dogma becoming a mere formal profession, inefficacious for good, but cumbering the ground, and preventing the growth of any real and heartfelt conviction, from reason or personal experience.

    So I look for a news source that gives me as many ideas as possible, so I can evaluate them myself. A special case is the journalistic rule: Whenever you attack someone, you have an obligation to give him a chance to respond. I worked as a journalist myself, and any journalist can tell you that when you get the other side, it often turns the whole story around.

    The one newspaper that did the best job (more than the New York Times) was the Wall Street Journal. For example, they did a story on a welfare work program in California, and interviewed everyone from the governor down to the welfare recipients. (It seemed clear to me that the program wasn't working, but you could come to your own conclusions.) Some of their best reporters were socialists. Their page 1 editor was gay, contracted AIDS, wrote about his treatement with AZT, and got a Pulitzer Prize for it. http://www.pulitzer.org/winner... [pulitzer.org] They wrote about the successes and failures of the capitalist system. The WSJ made their reputation when GM told them to kill a story, threatened to cancel all their advertising if they didn't, and the WSJ told them to fuck off.

    But best of all, they gave me ideas every morning that I disagreed with, and I had to figure out whether I was really right.

    Then Rupert Murdoch bought the WSJ and destroyed the best newspaper in the world, by placing right-wing political commissars over the editing process and censoring liberal ideas. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12... [nytimes.com] .

    So it's back to the New York Times, even though they have an annoying habit of pandering to their advertisers and to the neo-liberal establishment. (I noticed this when I was following auto safety engineering, and the NYT basically followed the auto industry line that seat belts and air bags were too expensive. The auto industry is in the top 2 or 3 newspaper advertisers.)

    After that, the best news sources that I read are in the professional journals. Science magazine actually does get all sides. I also read the New England

  • Answer the question (Score:5, Interesting)

    by spaceman375 ( 780812 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2017 @09:52PM (#54514997)

    Most of the comments so far are opinions on how to find or interpret news. Answering the question is more to the point. I listen to the NPR hourly news summary for breaking news, otherwise it's a scan of google news for topics of interest, then off to the specific interest sites (lots of science for me) that the submitter didn't really mean.
          Google news just collects stuff, then you can choose which article to read about the given subject. Comparing a few sources is easy, and really highlights the biased stance of each publication.
          Being well informed is now a matter of taking the time to slog through the simplified or biased sources with a seriously skeptical eye. As long as the local grocery store is open and I have enough money to shop there, I'm happy to watch it all go by. I absolutely participate in the things I feel passionate about, but Thank $DEITY that most of the stuff in the news is somewhere over there and not in my face.

  • - The new service must have bureaus and fully paid journalists on the field.
    - News must heavily outweigh opinion. When opinion is presented, it must be backed by quantitative analyses, not mere rhetoric.
    - Must regularly publish original studies, analyses and visualizations.
    - The opinions they present must be from well-known experts in their fields - well-known, not because they often bloviate, but regarded well by their scholarly peers.
    - Entertainment sections and cute stories must be at an absolute minimum

  • It first helps to gain a basic knowlege of the subject area. If you care about global warming, read a scientific study. If you care about politics, become familiar with liberal, conservative and libertatian schools of thought. For the later, I would recommend Cato institute home study course [youtube.com]. Then, if you see something that contradicts established body of knowledge, you will be in the best position to research further. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

    Other than that, pay news sources indepe

  • I don't choose a single news source, I choose many, and when a topic interests me I search for as many points of view as possible

    And as for how I find those? Various search engines, comment suggestions, aggregators, podcasts, etc, compiled over time

  • In the decades of yore, I've only ever had two subscriptions: The Economist (late nineties) and, briefly, the Toronto Globe and Mail (early nineties). After 2000, why bother? Once the internet really kicked off, I just found stuff. Mostly I rely on highbrow aggregation sites like edge.org and aldaily.com. TED talks were good initially, and I also used to check out Science Daily if I was bored.

    These sites often make passing mention to current events (something that's happened in the last three years) and

  • CSM has recently switched to be completely behind a paywall, as well.

    Just now I went to csmonitor.com, with JavaScript enabled in my browser. On that web page, there are some links to Monitor articles. Near the bottom of the page, there is a grey "Show More" button. If you click it, more links to articles appear at the bottom of the web page. I clicked that button 3 times, then clicked on a link to an article. This article [csmonitor.com] appeared. I was able to see the entire article. So I don't think you have to subscribe to the Monitor to read its articles.

    I just wish that in their artic

  • If they don't allow comments, I tend not to visit them as often. Despite the spam, partisanship, and personal attacks, comments sections are valuable to me as places where journalistic spin can be called out. I've lost count of the number of times I've read news articles linked to scientific studies, and the author is totally BTFO by a commenter who actually took the time to read the research paper.

  • by mseeger ( 40923 ) on Wednesday May 31, 2017 @02:18AM (#54515927)

    I have no problems with paying for a news source. I'ld rather pay myself than having some advertiser pay it for me.

    But there is one point I am no longer willing to compromise: any news source I pay for must offer me a full text RSS feed.

    I read about 400 news items per day. With several sources I get a decent balancing. But this is only possible if I get full text RSS feeds. Otherwise the workflow kills me.

  • They have all gone to hell.

  • What people call "news" seems to be a mix of celebrity gossip, current affairs based info-tainment, political rumours, re-tweets and sports results.

    That is all spiced up with salacious and gory images from nowhere in particular. Just as visual eye-candy to attract gawping readers / viewers.

    So far as news goes, there is very little that I need to be informed of - and even less that has a direct, personal, effect on myself or those I know or love. Most "news", on most days that is immediately important co

  • Disclaimer: My main news sources are BBC and LSM. I am liberally inclined.

    0. Obviously avoid any “made up news” sites. If you have no idea what the publisher is, either consider it made up or dig up sources.

    1. Avoid media that confuse option with facts. Easy to spot, since they use emotive language. Compare “swarm of immigrants” with “thousands of asylum seekers”. If they are the only ones talking about seemingly important issue, chances are, they are blowing things o

  • I use the ABC here in Australia as a source of news, both the website and the broadcast news.
    They don't spread FUD and BS or "fake news" (as far as I have seen anyway), they dont intentionally lie or twist the truth, they dont have to answer to advertisers or commercial interests and keep them happy and they are one of the few news outlets in the country still doing proper investigative journalism (4 Corners being the best example)

    I also watch the PBS News Hour over on SBS as well as SBS World News.

    On the o

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  • Relying on a single source is generally a very bad idea. Consider aggregating several. For instance, here in the UK, I skim:

    • BBC
    • The Guardian
    • The Telegraph (to see what the other side is saying)
    • sometimes Al Jazeera,

    All are decent for international news (esp al J and BBC World Service) I avoid the Mall, Express and the so-called "red tops" for anumber of reasons, but mostly because they are basically shite, and hugely annoying to read.

    I have stopped watching TV news altogether (even in the UK there are comp

  • My twitter feed has probably 30 news sources in it from MSNBC to Fox and everything in between. I just read the feeds and develop my own conclusions.

    I don't tweet much myself but using twitter as a news aggregator works pretty well for me.

  • Where's the CowboyNeal option?

  • I use CNN for convenience (easy to type) but the BBC is pretty good too. Then again I don't live in the UK, so UK people may have a different opinion of it.

    My best friend honestly believes that Fox News is the only news source that is, as they claim, "fair and balanced". He's pretty conservative and he bases this on the idea that they have like one commentator who is liberal and 2 or 3 who aren't crazy wing nuts. He thinks CNN is as about as far left as it gets. His head would explode if he knew

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