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Ask Slashdot: What Will the 2020s Bring Us? 207

dryriver writes: The 2010s were not necessarily the greatest decade to live through. AAA computer games were not only DRM'd and internet tethered to death but became increasingly formulaic and pay-to-win driven, and poor quality console ports pissed off PC gamers. Forced software subscriptions for major software products you could previously buy became a thing. Personal privacy went out the window in ways too numerous to list, with lawmakers failing on many levels to regulate the tech, data-mining and internet advertising companies in any meaningful way. Severe security vulnerabilities were found in hundreds of different tech products, from Intel CPUs to baby monitors and internet-connected doorbells. Thousands of tech products shipped with microphones, cameras, and internet connectivity integration that couldn't be switched off with an actual hardware switch. Many electronics products became harder or impossible to repair yourself. Printed manuals coming with tech products became almost non-existent. Hackers, scammers, ransomwarers and identity thieves caused more mayhem than ever before. Troll farms, click farms and fake news factories damaged the integrity of the internet as an information source. Tech companies and media companies became afraid of pissing off the Chinese government.

Windows turned into a big piece of spyware. Intel couldn't be bothered to innovate until AMD Ryzen came along. Nvidia somehow took a full decade to make really basic realtime raytracing happen, even though smaller GPU maker Imagination had done it years earlier with a fraction of the budget, and in a mobile GPU to boot. Top-of-the-line smartphones became seriously expensive. Censorship and shadow banning on the once-more-open internet became a thing. Easily-triggered people trying to muzzle other people on social media became a thing. The quality of popular music and music videos went steadily downhill. Star Wars went to shit after Disney bought it, as did the Star Trek films. And mainstream cinema turned into an endless VFX-heavy comic book movies, remakes/reboots and horror movies fest. In many ways, television was the biggest winner of the 2010s, with many new TV shows with film-like production values being made. The second winner may be computer hardware that delivered more storage/memory/performance per dollar than ever before.

To the question: What, dear Slashdotters, will the 2020s bring us? Will things get better in tech and other things relevant to nerds, or will they get worse?
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  • by Rick Zeman ( 15628 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @09:15AM (#59561426)

    ...the year of the Linux desktop.

    • by Laxator2 ( 973549 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @10:26AM (#59561642)

      I say this at every occation, so I will repeat it here:
      The fiirst year declared "Year of the Linux Desktop" was 2004. It was the year that the reasons for not using Linux on the desttop have switched from technical to political.
      Do you remember SCO vs IBM, Groklaw, etc ? Why do you think it all started in 20003 ?

    • by slack_justyb ( 862874 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @12:11PM (#59562022)

      the year of the Linux desktop.

      I swear I'm going to post an ask Slashdot at some point and ask Slashdot to actually define in concrete terms what "desktop Linux" means. Because Chromebooks are insanely popular and yet, the feel I get from a lot of Slashdot is that, "Chromebooks are not Linux". A lot of tablets and phones run Android, and yet what I get is "those are not Desktop". I'm told a lot about what the goal "isn't", but I'm honestly curious as to what the goal "is". What percentage are we aiming for here? Last I checked [itsfoss.com] in early 2019 "traditional" Linux distros accounted for 3.6 ish% (with it being between a firm 2.1% to 3.0% depending on your timeframe post 2017) of the Internet traffic and seeing how places like Russia and China are looking to provide "blessed by the state" versions of Linux, that percentage may stand to increase over the next decade. Are we going to count people who are forced to use Linux and nothing else? There's just a lot of holes in this definition of "Linux Desktop" that I'm unclear on and I think it's worthwhile to discuss what we "think" the goal is.

      That said, I agree with the moderation of funny here.

      • by bazorg ( 911295 )

        Desktop machine needs to:
        * have an external keyboard
        * have at least 2 USB ports
        * drive at least 2 screens
        * print.

        Bonus points for dirty beige colour.

        Linux and its many variants is used on the majority of devices out there, but is not predominant on those matching that list of 4 subjective requirements :)

        • As long as you define external keyboard to inciude a laptop keyboard, we're mostly in agreement.

          It should also produce enough heat to act as a cat warmer.

        • by tsqr ( 808554 )

          Desktop machine needs to: * have an external keyboard * have at least 2 USB ports * drive at least 2 screens * print.

          Bonus points for dirty beige colour.

          Linux and its many variants is used on the majority of devices out there, but is not predominant on those matching that list of 4 subjective requirements :)

          Plenty of modern laptop computers can easily meet those requirements. The Macbook Pro I use at work drives two, 2K 21x9 screens and a 2K 16x9, but I suspect most people would still call it a laptop. My Linux Mint tower at home is capable of driving two or more screens, but is currently connected to only one; I would calll it a desktop despite this shortcoming.

      • by leonbev ( 111395 )

        I'm convinced that there are a lot of Slashdot fans who only consider custom builds of Debian or Slackware with systemd ripped out of them to be only "true" desktop Linux.

    • by rho ( 6063 )

      Joking aside, it may very well. Look at the adoption rates of what are basically glorified Web apps masquerading as productivity tools. So long as your computer will render Google Docs or whatever, you're a first-class user whether you run Windows or Mac or Linux. Hardware is now so good even at the low end that I'm still using a laptop from 2011. A Raspberry Pi strapped to the back of a monitor would serve probably half of all computer users, and that number is going up.

      I don't know about the Purism Linux

  • Less (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Jarik C-Bol ( 894741 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @09:16AM (#59561434)
    Hopefully less bitching about menial shit.
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    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @09:21AM (#59561446)
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    • >"Why would the companies stop going down the path they are going?"

      When enough consumers complain and stop paying for what those companies are pushing. Money talks.

      • Then they just have to increase the advertising budgets a bit. The people will buy what they want to buy, and they will want what they are told they want.

        • >"Then they just have to increase the advertising budgets a bit. The people will buy what they want to buy, and they will want what they are told they want."

          Then those consumers are happy because they got what they want. Or do you think some "elite" class should tell (or force) the "people" what they are supposed to need/want/have, or tell (force) the producers what they should make?

          If there is a significant market for some alternative product, most likely it will be filled (unless monopoly, crony capit

        • they will want what they are told they want

          Dripping pomposity. Never considered that the "they" includes you, have you?

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      by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @09:39AM (#59561510)
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    • by Laxator2 ( 973549 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @11:03AM (#59561752)

      The 1920's is about the right time. Just in 1917 in Russia the old system was overthrown and a system that already had a large mindshare in the West was implemented: communism.
      It was this threat that forced the change from savage capitalism to the welfare state, to show that capitalism can have a "humane face".
      WIth the fall of the Soviet Union the threat is gone, and countries like China are not promoting any alternative to capitalism.
      Hence the return to savage capitalism (diisposable employees, anyone?).

    • is quietly admitting that populist Bernard Sanders [politico.com] might win the nomination. If he does we'll have the first FDR style President since, well, FDR.

      Trump was himself a populist, I'd argue a fake one (83% of his tax cuts went to the top 1% and the remaining 17% expire in 5 years, he quietly signed most of the provisions of the TPP into law, expanded the H1-B visa cap, has kept the drug and endless wars going the same as Bush/Obama did, etc, etc). There's basically two Trumps, Rally Trump and President Tru
  • A Backbone. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Fly Swatter ( 30498 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @09:21AM (#59561450) Homepage
    Maybe this decade the people will get one. All those things were allowed to happen because the people didn't care enough to actually not buy or use such encumbered and intrusive technology.









    Nah, who am I kidding.
    • by ganv ( 881057 )
      Yeah, most people will continue to do whatever corporate tech tells them is best for corporate tech. But that kind of self-serving design where experts build what advances the interests of the experts isn't stable in the long run. It has been hard to build a coalition that effectively counters them because (1) money easily buys off counter movements, (2) the culture wars have so fragmented our society that the natural coalition of libertarians and social justice types already hate each other, and (3) the
  • by Dripdry ( 1062282 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @09:22AM (#59561452) Journal

    This is posted as if the decade was the biggest turd imaginable. Cheer up, emo boy! It had plenty of good bits, and Star Wars couldn't have gotten any worse. It was saved, frankly.

    • If this is what saved is, they better do CPR on it, too.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      Trump disgraces his office and country with every tweet, increasing wealth inequality, the middle east remains torn by more civil wars than I can keep track of, we're letting the last chance to mitigate climate change sale past because too many influential people can't resist the allure of cheap, economy-fueling fossil fuel energy, political divisions have reached a dangerous level in multiple developed countries, Russia invaded part of Ukraine and seized territory while the rest of the world was utterly he

  • Past performance is the best indicator of future events. So, more of the same is predicted for 2020.

  • Systemd (Score:5, Funny)

    by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @09:29AM (#59561482)

    will now have it's own shell API. It will also clean up all of /etc into a single binary database file known as system.dat. The tool for editing this file is called regedit and will only run from docker containers.

  • Helping the few, while bothering, annoying and hurting many (and not just humans).
  • by xack ( 5304745 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @09:55AM (#59561552)
    People will keep using Windows 7 because they don’t want to upgrade to Windows 10, making them a target for Ransomware superviruses.
  • by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @09:58AM (#59561558)

    If there's one thing I hope for in 2020s it's that people lighten the heck up a bit. The summary is nothing but a sad tale of what went wrong ignoring all the things that went right in the past decade.

    For every downside listed there's upsides to see too. AAA titles are crap and console ports are poor? Well this past decade has seen the meteoric rise of independent studios providing excellent games that focus on fun gameplay for a change. We're in an era of increasing crossplay meaning you're no longer isolated from friends.

    Forced subscriptions are a negative no doubt, but subscription models aren't necessarily and with it comes continuously refreshed features which in the best cases make the model cheaper than buying every version (for those people who used to do that).

    Security vulnerabilities are everywhere, but for the most part they have been benign and the biggest threat is as it was in the 00s users installing untrusted software. You talk Meltdown and Babymonitors? Why not mention something that *actually* hurts people such as the rise of Randsomeware or ever increasing attacks targeted at safety systems? (Talk about the poster's misplaced priorities). Privacy took a baseball to the face, but in return much of what we do has never been easier powered by the very devices that harvest our data.

    The hardware complaints are especially curious. Intel innovating could likely have sunk AMD, it is *really good* that they dropped the ball. Likewise NVIDIA's raytracing... it wasn't even on anyone's mind until last year so complaining that it took a decade to get to market is quite bizarre. In that same decade actual graphics power has increased immensely as has the quality of gaming and simulation we use it for. They weren't sitting on their thumbs.

    Companies being afraid of the Chinese is also nothing from this decade. When you want to enter one of the biggest untapped markets (for a Western company anyway) you play by the rules. That's not being afraid of a government, that's strategically maximising profits and again, not a negative.

    While censorship is on the rise it has never been easier to actually get a voice online. What used to be reserved for nerds is now something a teenage girl can do. And while we're talking about the ease of our life, the interconnection between our devices has meant we have never had easier access not only to information but also our very own data, an incredible plus ignored by a depressed view of the past.

    The quality of popular music and music videos went steadily downhill.

    Ok Capt... *sigh*... Ok Boomer.

    • Sigh. *Must* you rebut with logic and facts?
    • That's not being afraid of a government, that's strategically maximising profits and again, not a negative.

      That's a stupid thing to say. Profit maximization is how China scares companies. It's not good that many companies (and universities, and news outlets and their parent companies) are towing the line of the CCP, even if it's because they are being paid rather than because they will be thrown in jail otherwise. It's still Blizzard telling people not to support Hong Kong and no one being taken seriousl

    • Companies being afraid of the Chinese is also nothing from this decade. When you want to enter one of the biggest untapped markets (for a Western company anyway) you play by the rules. That's not being afraid of a government, that's strategically maximising profits and again, not a negative.

      I like the optimism but China is an absolute disaster to any company that makes actual products. They copy without shame and the government outright helps. Play by the rules means forced technology transfers, mandatory local partners, and helping the largest scale government run persecution of a minority population since WW2. That you paint China as a positive shows that you are either very unaware of world events or, worse, just don't care as long as you can make a buck today.

  • by jellomizer ( 103300 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @09:59AM (#59561560)

    For me from 2010 - 2019
    Home internet speeds increased 20x
    The expected default browser switched from IE to Chrome
    The dependency on using Windows has dramatically dropped
    Electric Cars went from nearly nothing, to High Demand performance systems.
    I hardly have seen a BSOD or it nearest equivalent.
    We haven't had many major Virus attacks big enough to make the news.
    Food and Fuel cost have lowered or about the same
    My Income has risen
    I didn't get laid off this decade

    Yes they are plenty of bad things that had happened as well but that is life. Good things happen, Bad things Happen, Some of the Good Things has some bad trade offs. Some of the bad things bring good consequences later on. 2010 started rough as we were still getting out of the great recession, 2019 is rough because of all the political unrest. But the stuff in the middle wasn't all that bad.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Honestly, when I first read your list, I missed the word "off", when I read your last bullet-point. I thought, how sad.
    • We haven't had many major Virus attacks big enough to make the news.
      Food and Fuel cost have lowered or about the same

      I agree with the general sentiment, the poster is overly negative. However I have to disagree with these two.

      This past decade has seen the birth and rise to fame in both randsomeware as well as malware attacks on industrial safety systems. Compared to the viruses of the 00s this is far worse. This has crippled major companies and governments alike to say nothing of putting actual lives at risk, and they definitely have made the news over and over again.

      As for costs of food and fuel, it's not something to be

  • by leathered ( 780018 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @10:00AM (#59561566)

    Hopefully the early 2020s will see the end of blockchain, bitcoin and the insufferable zealots who peddle it.

    I have to admit that Bitcoin looked cool when it emerged over a decade ago, but everything it had promised has turned out to be false. High fees, long transaction times coupled with rampant fraud and manipulation, while the market becomes increasingly controlled by a handful of 'whales'. So much for decentralisation.

    Meanwhile my bank provides instant, fee-free transactions which can be reversed in the event of fraud.

    As for blockchain, it's the ultimate solution looking for a problem. Every attempt to integrate it into other technologies it has proved inferior to a centralised database.

    Just die already.

  • Positive perspective; Inequality gets worse to the point that platform cooperatives and economic democracy become more prominent at redistributing wealth internationally. Organizations like Eva will replace Uber, Fairbnb replace AirBnB, Reaonate replaces Spotify. MakerDao becomes a common transparent bank forcing innovation and better service to all. Privacy by Design becomes the norm and digital ID systems fix a lot of bureaucratic problems. Tim Berners Lee's New Internet, or MAIDSafe network actually
  • Will things get better in tech and other things relevant to nerds, or will they get worse?

    Well, yes! Yes they will! I think you got both choices down! Good work!

  • ... internal contradictions can't go on forever.

    For example, either women's sports will cease to exist, or else we will have to stop pretending that men dressing up as women are women.

    Doublethink and self deception can't continue forever; eventually you run head on into reality. When dudes in dresses are winning all the medals, something has to give.

    • by skam240 ( 789197 )

      The strangest thing to me is that I think you do actually believe what you've said will be a thing.

  • Even hotter than the previous one.
  • If you think that modern AAA games are derivative, samey, riddled with DRM, and filled with microtransactions, then you need to stop purchasing games by Ubisoft, Activision-Blizzard, and EA. This will instantly solve your problems.
  • by blahplusplus ( 757119 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @10:42AM (#59561692)

    ... most of the population is computer uninformed. We've watched the general public allow companies to steal games, apps, and now the OS in plain site. Our species is much too stupid to make rational decisions regarding tech.

    The theft of PC games that began with rebranding PC RPG's as mmo's has finally infected all PC games with destiny, overwatch, the latest modern warfare, GTA 5.

    I have severe doubts lawmakers can make it right, Valve and all big tech companies can just hold the files and code at their servers in their offices. Mobile phones are a complete locked down platform and Microsoft is trying to turn the PC into a fully locked down platform via the valve method of theft - slowly boil the frog while stealing from your customers while they can't reach you.

    The fact is "voting with your wallet" can't work when joe Q public is full retard level stupid regarding how computers work and is irrational to an insane degree, also try to tell the worlds teenagers and kids playing fortnite that they shouldn't give money to the big evil corporations so they can enjoy owning their pc games.

  • After the economy craters and Yang becomes president, all of the ledger base money is destroyed. This includes cypto, stocks and banks. The country bootstraps itself with the help of 3d printing, permaculture and open source.
  • You forgot the mad scientists release of nano-machines that will consume human flesh, the attack fleet from Zomulus IX that is now massing on the dark side of the moon, and the mutagenic virus created by an unknown agency that has been released into the unsuspecting global population.
  • AAA game publishers will take a page from the playbook of Adobe/Microsoft etc. and you won't be able to "buy" a game anymore, it'll be subscription based. Some AAA games will be Streaming-only as the Ultimate Anti-Piracy Scheme, for instance maybe Grand Theft Auto 6 might only be available on a streaming-service (maybe STREAM, Steam but for streaming).
  • Just you wait. Somewhere, someone will propose that the clocks strike 13.
    We will all be tracked 24/7 via implants. Naturally, this will be for our own safety and security (pah!)
    Government mandated 'security' apps will be on all our devices just to make sure we don't do anything nasty or perverted.

  • by Dallas May ( 4891515 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @12:12PM (#59562032)

    According to this list, the 2010's brought us to the apex of First World Problems.

    Maybe the 2020's will bring us the first ever "Other World Problems"? *Fingers crossed.*

  • by AlanObject ( 3603453 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @12:35PM (#59562130)

    Why anyone would care what I think I have no idea but here goes. This is mostly U.S.-centric.

    Batteries with better energy density than jet fuel.

    Commercially viable fusion or small-scale fission power plants.

    Major environmental collapse anyway.

    The complete, utter, decimation of the Republican Party and conservative media.

    Wealth re-distribution. Yes, a wealth tax.

    Return to sustainable agriculture.

    High speed rail (not hyperloop) in the U.S.

    Privacy guaranteed operating systems.

    Sex bots that are user mutable.

    Also immune to all forms of malware.

    Manned moon and Mars missions.

    Now, the number of these things that I think will actually happen is at best 1.5. Probably closer to 0.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      The complete, utter, decimation of the Republican Party and conservative media.

      Just curious, is that by killing them like Stalin or more of a re-education campaign like China does with the Uighurs? Just curious how far you'd be willing to go to 'decimate' those who don't see things your way.

      • Nice strawman, but I suspect they meant self-decimating. People like me, who were more or less the core of the old Republican party, will decide enough is enough and not vote for Trump. The greatest fear of a political party is that you vote for their opposition, but a close second is that you vote third party or don't vote at all. Trump is clearly losing some fraction of evangelicals. He's losing fiscal conservatives like me (I'll be voting for Weld in the primary, and likely writing him in the general
      • Re:My personal list (Score:4, Informative)

        by AlanObject ( 3603453 ) on Friday December 27, 2019 @03:31PM (#59562804)

        Just curious, is that by killing them like Stalin or more of a re-education campaign like China does with the Uighurs?

        Just curious. How is it that what I wrote brings those kinds of images to your mind? Projection much?

        Not what I had in mind at all. Looking at the numbers Republican policies are actually quite unpopular in the U.S. Yet they get elected by a) gaming the system, b) gaming the media, c) incredible amounts of money on hand, d) nowhere near a majority of voters actually vote. All of the above. Regardless, if all of the eligible voters actually voted and tracked every poll available, Republicans would hold a minority in most of the state legislatures, Republican governorships, both houses of Congress, and the presidency.

        See? No pogroms. No wishing for one. Just a preference for truly democratically-elected government. Sorry to disappoint.

  • I got an understanding of what the 2020's may hold the other day from my son in law. He was complaining a lot about how people were driving like idiots, and he needed a dash cam to show the cops the offender's plate, and have them cited, etc. I offered a different idea. How about a defensive driving class? You anticipate the space around you, and control what you can. The kicker? Your insurance company will likely give you a discount for doing just that. My point? We will learn in the 2020's that te
  • Here in the US, 2020 will have something to do with Peaches.
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