How Will the Euro Broadband Market Look in 2010? 27
JimboG1 asks: "Yahoo News has posted a Reuters story looking at the relative positions of the cable companies and the telecos in Europe by 2010. Market analyst Lars Godell of Forrester predicts that the cable companies will fall behind the telecos in coming years as their lack of capital and bad reputations catch up with them. Does Slashdot feel this is realistic, considering telecos across Europe are failing to meet their penetration targets? More broadly, what will the European broadband market look like in 2010?"
Interestingly... (Score:3, Interesting)
They also have another look at what things will look like down the line.
Re:Interestingly... (Score:2)
- xDSL will win over cable
- Incumbents marketshare will decrease
That's not contradictory
Three words... (Score:4, Funny)
*Yep, this post assumes the reader is also stuck in the US. If you're not in the US, don't flame me. Instead, take pity on me. =)
Re:Three words... (Score:2, Informative)
I'm not complaining.
Re:Three words... (Score:2, Informative)
The US is home to around 270 million people spread across roughly 3.5 million square miles. The EU is now home to about 450 million people, after the recent expansion, spread over only 1.4 million square miles ( http://www.eubusiness.com/guides/enlarged_EU/ [eubusiness.com]).
I'm no mathematician, but to me this gives the EU a much higher pop
Not that relevant. (Score:3, Interesting)
Canada has only 32 million people spread across roughly 3.85 million square miles [wikipedia.org], and by just about any measure (broadband penetration, cost of access), it surpasses the US by a fair margin.
The problems in the US have roots other than the size of the country alone.
Re:Not that relevant. (Score:1)
Do you have any insights into why this is?
Re:Not that relevant. (Score:2)
Re:Not that relevant. (Score:2)
The US has an similar band between Boston and Washington DC.
Re:Not that relevant. (Score:2)
Re:Not that relevant. (Score:2)
The vast majority of people tend to cluster near the Canada/US boarder. Something like 80% of the population is within 200 miles of the border.
The rest of the population tends to clump together in small villages. These tend to have pretty good communications because they have to have a comsat link just to talk to the outside world.
I would guess that only around places like Banif and Fort St. John would you have a situ
Re:Three words... (Score:2)
I have a feeling that it is not very high.
Re:Three words... (Score:1)
Turkey is probably at the bottom of any list you care to draw-up on this, but then again, they're not going to be given membership until at least 2015, if at all. As a broad rule of thumb, I would guess the further east you go, the lower the market penetration is in terms of usage and availability. But I have no figures to back this up.
Re:Three words... (Score:1)
A. Turkey is NOT a European country
B. They'll never become members of the EU
C. It's dirt poor (with regional exceptions)
Poland is not a bad place to be these days. And Greece has done remarkably well lately.
Re:Three words... (Score:1)
Maybe I should have asked this question before I submitted the story :)
My guess (Score:3, Funny)
Re:My guess (Score:1)
Do you need to make a certain number of posts?
Re:My guess (Score:2)
Re:My guess (Score:1)
It's good to know I'm not failing to see the correct button. It's happened before. :)
53%? (Score:3, Interesting)
"Cash shortages will kill cable's momentum, and its market share will drop from 53 percent in 2000 to 15 percent in 2010," said market analyst Lars Godell.
Hm, I can't really believe that cable has more than half of the market right now.
I know for sure that in Germany, cable internet access is nearly non-existant. AFAIK, Italy, France and the UK also have far more DSL lines than cable. And in Scandinavia, many people have those fat 10mbps pipes, which definitively are not cable.
I don't know much about other European countries, but if cable is supposed to have 53% market share, it must have close to 100% in all the other countries.
Does anyone have links relevant to the topic? What do my fellow European Slashdoters use for their broadband connection (besides "my neighbours AP")?
Re:53%? (Score:2, Informative)
I don't know of anything that compiles data across the 25 Member States.
Re:53%? (Score:1)
Btw, those fat ones are mostly in Sweden. My god I wish Finland would pick up on the pipebandwagon soon, there's been some discussion at least.
Re:53%? (Score:2)
Cable had about 50% europe-wide in 2000, that was 5 years ago as xDSL had only been around for a year. Now, in 2005, its down to less than 30%. In another 5 years, according to the research monkey who drew a straight line on a calendar, it will hit 15%. Presumably a few years after that, it will be negative
Probably a safe statement. None of the cable providers I know allow "true" internet connections. No servers, firewalls everywhere, no in
Other players are jumping on the bandwagon as well (Score:2)
building society (in Dutch, though) [portaal.nl]